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« on: August 14, 2011, 12:39:00 AM »

what make of engine is this? saw it today at a tractor show. the first pic is the engine. the second pic is what the engine was in.


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« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2011, 01:28:51 AM »

It reminds me of a chevrolet but don't take that for fact at all. Where is the distributor mounted?
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« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2011, 01:30:03 AM »

Looks likum poly-block chrysler.  318-340-360.

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« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2011, 03:06:56 AM »

Im going to go with 77 chrysler 360, (size and appearance of manifold gives it away), but it has a gm alternator on it. Obviously not oem unless Massy harris had a time machine back in the 40's.  Grin
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« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2011, 05:12:45 AM »

It is a small block Mopar product. With out the ID numbers it is difficult to tell the size. They probably used the Delco alternator because of the internal regulator and ease of installation.
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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2011, 07:37:28 AM »

i  have no idea where the distributor mounted, i just waanted to know what make of engine it was, the size wasn't that important.
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« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2011, 08:38:23 AM »

Shelby,
I think OPCOM might zero in if'n he knew where the distributor was located. The pics are very nice but not enough showing to get a thought process running.
I'm guessing this was not for farming?? And the engine crammed in a tractor as a "I knew I could do it" project?
I'll take a stab and say a Chevy 283 V-8
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« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2011, 09:07:27 AM »

Hi,

My guess: 396 GM motor. The Heads have angled plugs like a 396 did.
Might be 396 heads on a 327 block. Hmmmmmm.


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« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2011, 09:16:32 AM »

It is a small block Mopar.

Not a big block Chevy. Big block Chevys have 4 equally spaced exhaust ports .
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« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2011, 09:26:16 AM »

327 motors were small block engines,.. I'm sticken with Chevy here.. Smiley

KB3OUK Did you ask the guy who owns the Tractor...

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« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2011, 09:37:50 AM »

 Nope, NOT a Chevy, Oil filter is in the wrong place,Nothing there close to  Chevrolet except the Delcotron. The 396 is a big block and the 327 heads are totally different animals.Heads not at all interchangeable . Totally different layout.  They shared engine mount locations and oil filter locations with the oil filters at the rear of the left side of engine. The big block had equally spaced (4) exhaust ports and the small blocks had the semi-siamesed center exhaust ports.
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« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2011, 09:44:42 AM »

Welp. I guess that black piece you say oil filter is the tale tale to me it looked like the starter..

Oh well no biggie  Smiley I figgered small block chevy you could put that little motor in a lot of things.

Better Pictures would help.

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« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2011, 09:54:45 AM »

On a 327 the Oil filter is on the driver side of the motor.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SBC-CHEVY-283-305-307-327-350-5-0-400-ENGINE-KIT-DVD-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem1c1dd85e59QQitemZ120759803481QQptZMotorsQ5fManualsQ5fLiterature

And the fuel pump is on the passenger side

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1966-Chevrolet-SBC-327-300hp-Rebuilt-Engine-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2313443c93QQitemZ150647094419QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories



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« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2011, 10:04:51 AM »

fred, there wasn't anyone around it when i was there, but it looks like the distributor is on the back of the engine. info paper i think said the engiine was a 1960 and it puts out 260 hp. pretty vague description.
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« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2011, 10:07:29 AM »

Early MOPAR all the way. But the best ID is the part # on the exhaust manifold. Based upon sheer numbers built its likely a 318.

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« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2011, 10:20:02 AM »

Here is a 1960 318 230 horse:

http://www.allpar.com/mopar/a-engines.html

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« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2011, 10:26:55 AM »

i almost certain now its a mopar engine, too.





both of those are supposed to be poly block 318s. look at the similarities, especially the top one, taking note of where the oil filter and the mounting tabs are, same locations on that engine as the one i took the picture of.
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« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2011, 10:39:18 AM »

Yup that is what was throwing me the Filter.. I kept thinking Chevy man..LOLOL

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« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2011, 11:20:02 AM »

It's the engine out of Courson's ex cop car.

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« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2011, 12:01:45 PM »

Up until that last group of pictures, I had no idea! Like 51 watt Fred, I know everything so how could I not know this Wink Wink Wink Wink
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« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2011, 12:02:27 PM »

Looks like the 360 Wedge Head Mopar from my '84 Dog Van.

Good lineage,  but known for POOR FUEL economy.  Vic
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« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2011, 12:10:31 PM »

Whatever it is,
I bet it is damn loud.



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« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2011, 12:23:20 PM »

...Cut out Pipes.... Cool


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« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2011, 12:56:47 PM »

Whenever you see Flex Pipe, best to just walk away  Huh   Pure hack !
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« Reply #24 on: August 14, 2011, 01:13:14 PM »

Whenever you see Flex Pipe, best to just walk away  Huh   Pure hack !

Not always.  I have considerable time in sports cars/rallies and under certain demands the flex pipe will hold up where the stock design will not.

In a 1970 Datsun "Fairlady" 2000 I used to have, the 4 cyl, 135HP OHC engine put a lot of stress on the collector pipe at the bottom of the exhaust manifold.

Stock, Nissan used a scissors clamp and welded bracket to try to hold things down (I can only imagine the stress caused by the optional "Solex" equipped 150hp variant), but with heat and torque that collector would split.

Happily, the solution for many racers in H-Production was to go with a short flex pipe that took the brunt of it all.  Years later, even street cars like my 1969 Fairlady 1600 (a rockerbox OHV, only 96hp) benefit from the substitution of such a pipe just to hold all the elderly bits together during spirited road excursions.

Wonder what you think about the tailpipe extensions the kids are using on their tuners. We call them grapefruit launchers, yet, I have to say, they sure add some class.


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