heater for the shack recommendations

[W3GMS]

Hi Frank,
Yep, I would do the 3(R) in your area.  Down in good old W.VA I am not sure how cold it gets.  Insulation is always a great place to put your money into. 
Here in my house I have R-50 in the attic but am stuck with R-11 in the walls since the house was already built when I bought it.  When I put new siding on the house, I did use insulating foam panels prior to putting on the new siding.  I staggered and tapped the seams and noticed a big difference when the job was done. 

Derb,
The goal should be to heat the place on the coldest winter day with just your Gonset amp on!!!

Joe, GMS         

[KB2WIG]

 "
Give a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day.

Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life... "

 Hmmm, I thought everyone forgot.... ..

klc

[N3DRB The Derb]

teh electrical guys are gonna be here tomorrow, maybe I can get my problems resolved and start laying down some mauls. I hope so, I'm pretty lost without ham radio in my life.

[WA1GFZ]

Joe,
I had the same problem in this house with 2X4 walls. I put another row of studs shifted 8 inches around the whole house and insulated them. Also rewired the whole house since there was no safety ground. I had replaced the windows so just needed wider extension jams. I would have added a layer of foam between the walls  if I did it today. I just did 1 room at a time working my way around the house. New place R67 / R35.

[Opcom]

That pic of the ladies there is only half the story. Here's the outside of that sauna. You can tell by the window.

BTW the vehicle there is what I am building here in Chester, IL. It was 10 degrees today. Not like Texas..

It's what I call an adventure vacation. - this sauna-truck building up north in the frozen area of the country.

[W1RKW]

I ordered one of these (see below) about the time this thread was started.  It came yesterday and hooked up to a 1lb bottle to it to try it out in the shack.  I can now warm the operating position from 58 to 68 in about 15 to 20 minutes. After it warms up turn off both heaters and the equipment maintains the temp. 

http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200395499_200395499

[W1ATR]

Hey, speaking of the Mr. Heater Buddy, aka "Bringer of Death", Check out this from today's paper. This guy made a most obvious and stupid ass mistake. I know your a lot smarter than this Bob.

http://www.rep-am.com/articles/2010/01/07/news/local/459385.txt

I also want to kick in a vote for the Rinnai heater. Their a little pricey to get a complete new install with gas line and tank, but after it's done, you'll love it. To date, I have a couple hundred of these done all over CT, and every one of them as always started right up and ran without a hitch. They're efficient, reliable, and MOST important, very quiet. Think "Open mic" in the same room. You'll need a 100 gallon tank outside somewhere, (60gal minimum). It's a 3" hole thru the wall to outside for the coaxial vent and the heater itself attaches to wall with a bracket. Very easy to install. I can knock out one of these including a basic gas line and tank install in approx 2-3hr's.

Try and stay the hell away from anything unvented ('vent free') for your radio room area. It's one thing if your just going to warm up an area to do a fast oil change or something. But if your going to spend hours in an enclosed place, you won't like the smell a ventless heater produces. Any breathing problems or other sensitivities become more pronounced when these heater are used as well. Some are better than others, and some have the radiant grids that function more as a catalytic converter. While they do have ODS pilot safeties (Oxygen Depletion Sensor), they still take oxygen from the air and turn it into carbon monoxide. When a manufacturer says these are 99% efficient, they say that because the exhaust is added into the figure with the intended heat the unit produces. Kinda like how antenna makers use dBi in there product rating's because it looks better on paper than dBd. A little one probably isn't a big deal, but anything above 10kBtu will stink.



 

 

[W1RKW]

Yep, another non-thinker. Paid a big price for that maneuver.  Heavier than air gas vapors and an open flame at ground level, indeed not a good combo.

I hope I'm smarter than that person.  Having the master bedroom over the garage has always been a concern from a trip to the moon point of view.  Other than cars which get moved outdoors when working in the garage with potential ignition sources, all other gas items including gas cans are stored outside in the shed 80 feet from the house. Plus I don't want the smell of gas in the house if something spills.  The vapors will make me ill.

The gas heater I will not leave unattended.  If I walk away from it, it gets turned off. But the good thing is I only run it for 15 to 20 minutes to ramp up the heat in the shack more quickly.

[N2DTS]

Was the guy a republican?
If so, he had it coming...

Brett

[W1RKW]

ToS!

[flintstone mop]

Honeywell makes avery nice space heater that is an omnidirectional design. $35

http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&source=hp&q=honeywell+space+heater&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=14988478612347710748&ei=L8pLS-XwB46XlAeOje2JDQ&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CB8Q8wIwAA#ps-sellers

Very highl;y rated + I have one of those and want to get another. Keeps the man caves around 65 F and cycles. Does not run continuously. Safety tilt over too

Phred

[WA1GFZ]

I had some aluminum frame windows heading to the transfer station when I noticed that if turned sideways they would cover the 4 basement windows from outside. I think it is about 5 degrees warmer this winter. I have not seen it under 63. If i turn on the lights and rig it gets fairly nice after a while. Progress on the new heater coming along.

[W1ATR]

Forget those plugin $35 jammies. Gotta heat the shack in style.

[WA1HZK]

I suggest electric, 833's X 833's.
Very efficent. Whatever you don't get as heat, you get as RF. 100%
Don't listen to those E rig guys!
Keith
WA1HZK

[KB2WIG]

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