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Author Topic: Receiver NF and Dynamic Range Spreadsheet for Geeks  (Read 4523 times)
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Tom WA3KLR
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« on: October 11, 2005, 08:17:26 PM »

Disregard for now.
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« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2005, 10:45:59 AM »

Ah RX drag racing can't wait
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« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2005, 01:48:18 PM »

Well,

I hope I'm not opening a can of worms, BUT I made an Excel spreadsheet that calculates and shows receiver dynamic range and noise figure as it progresses through a receiver system design.

The sheet allows 11 stages PLUS a gain reduction via "Input Loss" box at each stage's input.

The spreadsheet also displays the stage-by-stage dynamic range levels on a chart.

The range-reducing stage is quickly identified.

The spreadsheet has 3 pages - click on the "RX Dyn. Range" tab for the DR sheet. It is pre-filled with a dual-conversion receiver design example.


Send me a PM with your e-mail address to get the .xls file which is about 58 kbytes.
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« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2005, 12:31:13 PM »

Rob Sherwood has an interesting list of many receivers he has tested.
I trust his numbers and have come within 1 db of his numbers in a couple cases.
You have to remember phase noise will kill close in dynamic range.  fc
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« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2005, 12:25:27 PM »

Frank,

Speaking of receiver drag racing, are you aware of the Analog Devices AD831AP mixer i.c.?
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« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2005, 12:37:11 PM »

interesting part but I take notice when the ip3 is above plus 35 dBM.
I'm thinking of playing with some h mode mixers this winter. I want to make close in ip3 as good as my synthesizer phase noise. I'm just starting another 6830 chassis with a cool second mixer module that may come close. I have to modify it a bit but looks cool. I think the dynamic range is around 100 dB at 10 khz spacing with a 20 KHz filter. 105 db above 20 KHz spacing and there is a good 5 to 10 dB of MDS hiding in the board. Might to have to roll my own mixer if this doesn't get me there. 1 KHz spacing is in the mid 80s.
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