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« on: March 20, 2024, 01:17:39 AM »

Have been playing around with this project using Nigels circuit as a guide and it really has been quite successful......
Have uploaded 2 photos.....
The efficiency is mid 90s .... a little unbelievable to say the least...
Have made the load around 8R and using my test Power Supply that can only supply about 5 amps the output is 173 watts going by my CRO at the dummy load which is getting very warm.....

Are going to order some more FETs and makeup a smaller module using CMCD.....
My aim is to hopefully have 2 small modules with good efficiency into a combiner producing a total of around 150 watts....

Wayne



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« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2024, 06:17:37 AM »

Awesome news!

Good to see the higher frequencies being explored.

I miss building.  Hoping to buy a house in the next couple months and get started again.  Idle hands and all.....


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« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2024, 06:12:27 PM »

Hi Shane...

Thanks for your remarks....
Not that I'm spying on you but you live in an interesting place  Grin
Right next to Cuba and the Bermuda Triangle  Roll Eyes

Do you go swimming down at the beach ?
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« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2024, 06:49:34 PM »

Swimming, diving (snorkel and scuba).

Love the water, it was a major factor in moving here.

Hurricanes are a downside but having moved from California where you never know if you where going to have an earthquake and fall intk the ocean or a wildfire burn your house down, this is manageable!

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« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2024, 09:27:11 PM »

Hmmm yeah....
California does have shocking fires .....
We get quite a bit of news of those fires and makes me wonder if there is any bush left....
Fires over here are definitely ferocious too but those around Californa seems to top the list which is not something you want....
I dont really want to think about that super valcano as I suppose it is what it is ..... so to speak....

Have fun swimming  Grin


Wayne
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« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2024, 08:38:07 AM »

Hi Wayne, what drivers are you using I wonder? Still the NCP's?

I'm trying to find faster devices as need to get to over 15MHz now.

I doubt you're getting the efficiencies you quote and will be more high 80's.

I've used SMT GaN devices with 2.2nC Qg (GS-065-011-2-L) and can get around 89%.
Measured using a fully calibrated Agilent system with a Python efficiency meter script.

Sure I'd like to get to mid 90's but I don't think it possible especially above 5MHz.

I hope to be proved wrong!

Regards

JohnB.
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« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2024, 11:19:42 PM »

Hi John

Sorry to disappoint you but I'm rather boring and decided Sinewave drive  was a better option....
I only build for myself so picked the easier path that offered success for me anyway.....
Have attached a photo of my Sinewave Driver and if you look closer .... yes an analog VFO...!!!!
All that work for 5 watts of drive...
Was very surprised with the efficiency so thought this TX deserved to be on air....
The FETs are the key here in my opinion.
They work well on 20M and going by the specs are fully on at 8 volts which was another reason why I used Sinewave Drive....
50% DC would be obtainable.
The PWM is already built...
Whats left is the front panel assembly and a Bridge for SWR and Power  display etc:
It will have sequencing too as well as StevesQIX " no drive no transmit " circuit....

My Chrome display has gone all weird again and cannot add Smiley Faces .....

Wayne


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« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2024, 01:40:15 PM »

Hi Wayne, maybe it's the 'Fashion' on here not to use a PCB!

So cheap these days so I wouldn't consider all that effort to use any other method.

That said your construction is a work of art!

So what are you using for drivers and O/P devices, I wonder?

Greetings from the UK.
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« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2024, 01:36:56 AM »

Ohhh some people use PCBs etc: John JSW does....
This build is all experiential really....
The Sinewave VFO thing was made up on the go from stage to stage and for me cutting little bits of PCB and glueing as I went was much easier...
If I was to make another the outlay would be different and better...
There is a MMIC there somewhere too thats modern isnt it ....
Just after the mixer and before the BPF ......

The FETs are TPH3206PS that Nigel discovered.....

The Sinewave drive goes into those ferrite cores for the phasing and into the gates...

When testing the drive level was only 2.5 Watts of carrier so have plenty up my sleeve....

Thats about it I think.....
Been a fun build really....

Actually I bought a Sysjoint SV4401 VNA a little while ago and was interesting setting up all the impedances and things.. a great unit....


Wayne



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« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2024, 03:49:35 AM »

Hi Wayne, all good stuff altho' you didn't mention the drivers?

I guess still the NCP81074's?

2W5; then that's why it's so efficient!

4 GaN's will happily give 100W carrier @ 24-30V

I've made a few of these and are in commercial service 24/7.

I use one driver per fet driven direct thru' small R.

However I'm wanting to get to 250W carrier using Nexperia GaN's and also (maybe a different design) increasing the frequency to 20MHz so may (as been suggested elsewhere) have to use 'sinewave' drive but am going to try some different drivers.

Lots of experimenting to do and am determined to get the designs CE certified.

Good purchase on the VNA, an invaluable instrument!

Great value at the mo' are MXA's (N9020A) as CH are selling them off cheap and relatively simple to enable ALL the options for a fully configured Spec Ani.

Keep up the good work, I'll post up any findings re driver improvements etc.

Best Regards from the UK.

JohnB.
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« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2024, 11:21:52 PM »

Sounds like your full on trying to get higher in frequency....

Not using drivers like the NCP81074 just sinewave from that module just built into the ferrites for phasing and into the gates of the FETs...
Thats all....!!!

Will post more pictures as I proceed along....



Wayne


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