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« on: April 20, 2024, 11:23:59 AM »

[I'm from a non-native English speaking country and my content is provided by Google Translate]

There isn't enough room where I live to install a full-size 160M band antenna, so I need a more powerful transmitter to make up for the inefficient antenna.

I originally decided to use a Class E amplifier, but a high voltage vacuum variable capacitor suitable for a high power Class E amplifier output tuner was beyond my budget.

Then I discovered W1VD’s Current-Mode Class D power amplifier design on the Internet, which uses a transformer for impedance transformation without the need for tuning components. Seems easier to build too.

After continuing to search for CMCD power amplifier related content, I found the CMCD calculator written by LU5HAH and calculated a design that seemed feasible.

My electronic knowledge is not very rich and I cannot complete the design by myself, so I hope the experts in the forum can help me. Thank you very much.


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« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2024, 11:29:52 AM »

Regarding the outdated MOSFETs used in the design, NOS's FQA11N90 MOSFETs are still readily available where I live for $4.30 each. If there is a better MOSFET option please let me know.
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« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2024, 11:37:13 AM »

It is found from the calculator that the output impedance at 80V carrier voltage and 625W carrier power is exactly 50Ω, which can be output through a simple 1:1 choke. From the Class E website, I learned that the safe operating current of the FQA11N90 should be around 1A, and the total current of 7.9A calculated on the calculator looks fine. But is 80V carrier voltage too high for FQA11N90?
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« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2024, 10:11:22 PM »

Hi...

Not sure of your name or country not that it matters....
I am not an expert on CMCD but will give it a go to help...
Tonight will check though whether all your calculations of the tuned circuit are correct using 4 X 11N90s either side etc: and advise soon....
The current balun should be fine and also the DC blocking capacitors locations can be positioned before or after the balun... Smiley

Using CMCD with 80 volts applied should be OK....
Driving current will be interesting but your operating frequency is 160M so thats in your favour.... Cheesy
Are you using Digital drive or Sinewave drive ?

Wayne
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« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2024, 02:33:21 AM »

Hi...

Not sure of your name or country not that it matters....
I am not an expert on CMCD but will give it a go to help...
Tonight will check though whether all your calculations of the tuned circuit are correct using 4 X 11N90s either side etc: and advise soon....
The current balun should be fine and also the DC blocking capacitors locations can be positioned before or after the choke... Smiley

Using CMCD with 80 volts applied should be OK....
Driving current will be interesting but your operating frequency is 160M so thats in your favour.... Cheesy
Are you using Digital drive or Sinewave drive ?

Wayne

Thank you for your help.
I plan to use digital drivers, using an IXDD614 to drive two FQA11N90s.
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« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2024, 05:41:25 AM »

Noticed your online...
The calaculator seems great...
Do you have the link...

Ohhh you just departed...


Wayne

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« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2024, 06:02:04 AM »

Noticed your online...
The calaculator seems great...
Do you have the link...

Ohhh you just departed...


Wayne



The calculator can be downloaded from LU5HAH’s website
https://lu5hah.blogspot.com/2022/02/para-aquellos-que-deseen-calcular-sus.html#comment-form
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« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2024, 06:14:02 PM »

Sorry for the delay...

I decided not to use LA5HAH calculator but my own method and came up with these figures...

5200pF in parallel with 1.4uH equals a resonant frequency of 1.865Mhz...
Each 11N90 has 300pF capacitance which totals 1200pF...
5200-1200=4000pF for the external capacitor....

The Q is very low so the bandwidth will be quite large.
The inductor will also be large but manageable and will get hot so hot that you may have to bolt it down... Shocked

Have you decided on the output balun construction whether or not to use ferrite beads or a toroidal core...
You could use twisted wire...


Wayne

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« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2024, 06:37:16 PM »

Some practical observations.

50ohms is good to make the output circuit simple, but how will you modulate the amplifier? PWM does not like to see 50 ohms. The output filter inductors will be huge. You could modulate it easier using a conventional mod transformer approach if that is your intended source impedance. Some ideas here.

http://amfone.net/Amforum/index.php?topic=30798.0

I have a 4 device H-Bridge making 375W at 96V. Have the rest of the circuit designed using an Antek transformer as the mod trans, but life has gotten in the way, so I have not implemented the circuit. Should work fine...

625W should be do-able. Making carrier is the easy part. Making a transmitter is more effort.

Also, 625W at 80V is 7.8 amps. Peak current could be close to 31 amps. Going to take a solid power supply.

John
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« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2024, 02:46:34 AM »

Some practical observations.

50ohms is good to make the output circuit simple, but how will you modulate the amplifier? PWM does not like to see 50 ohms. The output filter inductors will be huge. You could modulate it easier using a conventional mod transformer approach if that is your intended source impedance. Some ideas here.

http://amfone.net/Amforum/index.php?topic=30798.0

I have a 4 device H-Bridge making 375W at 96V. Have the rest of the circuit designed using an Antek transformer as the mod trans, but life has gotten in the way, so I have not implemented the circuit. Should work fine...

625W should be do-able. Making carrier is the easy part. Making a transmitter is more effort.

Also, 625W at 80V is 7.8 amps. Peak current could be close to 31 amps. Going to take a solid power supply.

John

Oh, it seems I forgot the critical PWM modulator load impedance issue. I've posted the new modified design below with a drain impedance of 12.6Ω.

I plan to use the same five IRFP260N PWM modulators as the 24 MOSFET Class E transmitter. If five IRFP260N PWM modulators can drive a 24 MOSFET Class E transmitter with a 1000W carrier, then it can theoretically drive a 625W CMCD transmitter.
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« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2024, 02:51:49 AM »

Sorry for the delay...

I decided not to use LA5HAH calculator but my own method and came up with these figures...

5200pF in parallel with 1.4uH equals a resonant frequency of 1.865Mhz...
Each 11N90 has 300pF capacitance which totals 1200pF...
5200-1200=4000pF for the external capacitor....

The Q is very low so the bandwidth will be quite large.
The inductor will also be large but manageable and will get hot so hot that you may have to bolt it down... Shocked

Have you decided on the output balun construction whether or not to use ferrite beads or a toroidal core...
You could use twisted wire...


Wayne



thank you very much for your help.

I just realized that the MOSFET Coss entry in the LU5HAH calculator only calculates the Coss of one MOSFETs. If you use more MOSFETs in the actual design, you need to subtract more Coss yourself.

I plan to make an impedance transformation transformer and choke using 28B1020-100 cores.
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« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2024, 02:56:25 AM »

I revised the design after discovering problems with the initial design. Adjust the drain impedance to 12.6Ω to suit the PWM modulator. Also increase the number of MOSFETs to 12 to amortize the increased current.


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« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2024, 04:43:33 AM »

Ok thats great .....
Seems like your organised now and can proceed with the build....
Your PWM will work fine into those loads....

Let us know how things work out....


Wayne

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