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« on: November 09, 2011, 05:36:15 PM »

The Oregon Office of Emergency Management said Wednesday reports are coming in from radio and television stations around the state — and most say they didn't get the signal, or did not get it well. Grin

go figure, even OWIN was a flop and the governor pulled the rug from under it. Grin

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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2011, 05:51:48 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2011, 06:27:30 PM »

Well, you're on the left coast now, Craig. Give 'em time.  Wink

From what I could tell monitoring numerous stations on AM, FM, and local TV, it went pretty well here in NC. Sounded no different than the typical EAS weekly test. The only thing I did notice was a slight time lag, some stations were still broadcasting the message after the station(s) I was monitoring had moved back to programming. Spun the dials on both AM and FM receivers and heard the tail end of the same message.

I did note that cable stations and at least one FM station carrying syndicated programming did not broadcast the actual test, despite mentioning it.

Not bad for a first try in this neck-o-the-woods.
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« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2011, 07:00:49 PM »

didn't hear it here but they have them about once a week at 2 AM or so. It's enough to wake up the dead! I hate it.

What's worse is the new rule where all hams must be tied into the alert system. Everyone who is operating at the time, must re transmit the waring signal no matter what mode your running!
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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2011, 07:18:25 PM »

What's worse is the new rule where all hams must be tied into the alert system. Everyone who is operating at the time, must re transmit the waring signal no matter what mode your running!
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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2011, 07:37:30 PM »

Alabama test worked surprisingly in Montgomery only, failed everywhere else in Alabama.
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« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2011, 07:39:25 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2011, 07:42:38 PM »

Arizona TV carried something at the right time.  It was doubled with alert data over the voice segment.

Pure schniznit.

Makes me glad I'm not in the full-time broadcst business anymore.... Tongue

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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2011, 08:22:19 PM »

It was a little late here. The audio was terrible. The local cable service did not come back right away. Instead the screen showed "SONY DVD" for several minutes.  Grin
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« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2011, 08:53:41 PM »

What's worse is the new rule where all hams must be tied into the alert system. Everyone who is operating at the time, must re transmit the waring signal no matter what mode your running!

That only applies if you live on the planet Parsipatus in the country of Gnome.
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« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2011, 06:41:02 AM »

Was this what you got?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6gz1oQVBkw
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« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2011, 06:47:05 AM »

It was a little late here. The audio was terrible. The local cable service did not come back right away. Instead the screen showed "SONY DVD" for several minutes.  Grin
HA! I bet someone jack-legged some POS OTA DVD into their system and took the command signals to interrupt normal programming.
My DirecTV went through the motions, but I never heard any announcement. There was some sort of audio way down in the background noise, and then the usual blurps of digital signals. A Michael Jackson song played at other times.
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« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2011, 08:16:03 AM »

My brother is chief engineer for a radio station in SE Virginia and says things went okay except for the audio quality, as relayed over multiple paths.

A website has some audio airchecks from around the country and discussion:

http://www.thebdr.net/articles/fcc/eas/eas.html
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« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2011, 08:37:15 AM »

This is what it sounded like here.  Grin


* Nov 9 EAS.mp3 (477.55 KB - downloaded 197 times.)
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« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2011, 11:15:48 AM »

No, I've been getting a lot of this instead

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF0rgOEKX4s
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« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2011, 12:25:09 PM »

A few years back, when I was CE at KJZZ-KBAQ, one of the "lesser" engineering types sent a RMT, or monthly EAS test.  

He mistakenly fired off a tsunami alert.  Funny thing was, it was for the Phoenix AZ area.... Roll Eyes

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« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2011, 06:32:09 PM »

It was a LOT more fun back when... Cheesy

http://www.thebdr.net/images/Conelrad-TheBigQuestion.mp3

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« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2011, 08:35:53 PM »

It was a LOT more fun back when... Cheesy

http://www.thebdr.net/images/Conelrad-TheBigQuestion.mp3

Ha!

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In the late 60s I worked a short time for Westinghouse. One of the projects I worked on was BC band Conelrad receivers that were unmuted by a series of transmitted tones.  The final tone kept the receiver unmuted.  They were used for alert messages.  One model was set up with relays instead of audio output.  The relays were used to activate sirens or horn alerts.

The receiver had no controls on the front.  They were tuned to a single frequency with a set audio output.  The only thing on the front was a button to unmute it for testing.  They used two ferrite loop antennas, set at right angles to make them omni directional.

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As I remember it was a gov contract.  I think these receivers were intended to be used by first responders.  Probably not called first responders back then.

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« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2011, 12:28:50 AM »

Reminds me of one of my co-workers at Fleetwood back around the time of the Three Mile Island thing. He came up with this:

"This is a test of the Emergency Broadcast System. This is only a test. If this were an actual Three Mile Island type emergency, you would be instructed to tune to whatever stations may be left in your area for emergency instructions. In all probability, those instructions will be to put your head between your legs and kiss your a** goodbye. This is only a test."
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« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2011, 08:22:53 AM »

When I was in elementary and jr high school (back in the 60s) we used to have "cvil defense" drills. This was where they would take all of the knds down into the basement area (usually stuffed old desks and other unused materials) and instruct us to basically (put your head between your legs and kiss your a$$ goodbye) kneel down by the walls and under the desks and hope for the best. Knowing what I/we now know as adults, that was the last place to be, but it sounded good.

This way, if the big one came, we were allready pre-buried.

They did a lot to keep the threat alive in our minds for many years.

Or how many of y'all remember the advertisement on TV (black & white TV too boot) of Niketa Kruschev shaking his fist while hollering "We will bury you" ? ? ?

The 60s were a very interesting time in history.
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« Reply #20 on: November 11, 2011, 08:52:06 AM »

I never heard a thing in Tum Tum....The gubmit can't even get a space shuttle audio signal out nationwide...If this was the acrudamy awards, or a rap concert,you wouldn't have any trouble receiving it.. I feel so confident..They have the finest minds in the country working on this....I wonder how much this fiasco cost us?   
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« Reply #21 on: November 11, 2011, 08:52:41 AM »

When I was in elementary school, in the 50's, all the kids had a personal asbestos tile to sit in during the drills.   It was to keep are little butts warm when sitting in the cold marble floors in the hallway.
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« Reply #22 on: November 11, 2011, 09:26:52 AM »

Apparently the "KISS" principle never applies to anything the government tried to do... 
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« Reply #23 on: November 11, 2011, 12:03:43 PM »

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« Reply #24 on: November 11, 2011, 12:39:12 PM »

Thank God? it was only a test. Listening to the samples from the above link (FCC), didn't sound like too many people heard much of anything that made sense.

I'm guessing this was not using internet technology?? WHAT IF a National emergency and the whirl wide web is down???
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