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« on: October 02, 2011, 10:27:11 AM »

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/02/us/for-kennedy-a-secret-shelter-was-a-cold-war-camelot.html

Does anyone know more about Taylor equipment ? The bunker's purported "Taylor Transmitter ham radio" looks mighty good !

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« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2011, 03:48:09 PM »

I was an active ham at that time, and have no recollection of Taylor having made equipment - as opposed to components - for amateur (as opposed to commercial) use.  A company of the same name is still in existence today, producing broadcast equipment.

The pictured rig has the "military/industrial" style that was popular during that epoch.  It was clearly designed to be rack-mounted (notice the handles, a clear giveaway).  Contrast its look with that of Collins equipment from the same era.

I think the Times writer was taking an editorial liberty when he described the equipment as "ham radio" type.  In any event, why would the POTUS use ham gear, as opposed to military communications devices?

p.s. - by the way, where's the receiver?  Is it the small box on the right?  Or is the whole set-up "staged"?

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« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2011, 04:39:57 AM »

I saw this article in the newspaper the day it was published, and wondered whether the display is staged, too, although the "Taylor transmitter" is interesting. Couple of additional pieces are stacked up on it, including a Shure equalizer on the very top. Does the Shure 444 desk mic date back that far? I seem to remember Sid Shure was a licensed radio hobbyist, maybe this was his "HAM" radio station. The module on the right seems a lot newer. Curiously, it has a spinner knob like the one on the PTO of a T-368, with the smaller knobs looking more like "Harris" comms gear.

But I'm skeptical this was any kind of presidential "mobile telephone" as the museum person is quoted as describing.

Ordinarily the White House Communications Agency (WHCA, verbally nicknamed "wocca" ) would orchestrate presidential comms, especially those that would take place under crisis preparedness. Having the President sit at a table in a bomb shelter and operate a station is far-fetched, unless perhaps Barry Goldwater K7UGA had been elected in 1964.

Quick research:

http://www.disa.mil/Careers/WHCA/About

Organizationally, the Agency is part of the Department of Defense. Established in 1942 as
the White House Signal Detachment, its mission during the Roosevelt Administration was to
provide normal and emergency communications to support the President. The Detachment’s first
jobs were to provide mobile radio, teletype, telephone and cryptographic services in the White
House and Camp David (then known as Shangri-La). In 1954, during the Eisenhower
Administration, the Detachment was reorganized under the Army Signal Corps and renamed the
White House Army Signal Agency. In 1962, it was transferred to the Defense Communications
Agency and took its current name. The Agency is under operational control of the White House
Military Office (WHMO), with administrative oversight provided by the Defense Information
Systems Agency (DISA). Agency personnel come from all branches of the Armed Forces. The
Agency commander is a one-star flag officer.






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« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2011, 01:53:56 PM »

The whole set-up looks bogus.  The large black unit looks more like a piece of GR test equipment of some sort.  Although, the small pointer knobs don't look like GR's.  Can't imagine the President sitting at a piece-of-crap desk, in a corner, trying to run the country in a crisis and trying to do in with the junk that's sitting on that desk.

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« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2011, 07:43:32 PM »

I agree with Fred! It all looks like stage props to me! So there!
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« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2011, 09:00:49 PM »

OK guys, probably the setup is a setup  Cheesy the "bunker" was highly likely one of the many cribs Jack used to plonk his groupies.

But is there such a thing as "Taylor Transmitters" (TT's for short) ? Taylor himself in his supermodulation articles writes that he built the demonstrator xmtr and gave it to a ham who was testing it out on the bands and generating interest (way back when).
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« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2011, 02:13:32 AM »

'Taylor transmitters' & 'Taylor Tubes', prolly not the same outfit.

Taylor tubes were indeed made by some guys with ham tickets, but their name wasn't Taylor...

Still, that grainy photo is some 'curators' idea of what it was like in a bunker back in '62, and not of the original items if indeed there was any radio stuff in there to begin with.

We'd like to see the data on that 'transmitter' up close, why not just jot down ther and get a better shot of it? Wink

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« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2011, 08:19:24 AM »

Yes that is a comparator bridge.
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« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2011, 01:05:02 PM »

It's clearly a fake. The period of the pieces are grossly mismatched and appear as hodgepodge. Some reporter is still living in the mythical la-la land of Camelot or just smoking some good stuff!
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« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2011, 02:23:31 PM »

Would that be Camelot-pot? Wink

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« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2011, 03:07:37 PM »

Isn't that redundant?   Grin
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« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2011, 03:25:15 PM »

Hi Jack, Remember me?






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« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2011, 03:35:57 PM »

Isn't that redundant?   Grin

Not when you work for the Department of Redundancy Department. Wink

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« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2011, 05:00:13 PM »

Ah, Yes, the Department of Redundancy Department, headquartered in Walla Walla, WA, with branch offices in Baden-Baden, Germany and Pago Pago, American Samoa :-).
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« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2011, 05:01:23 PM »

Ha! Grin
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« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2011, 12:01:21 AM »

Their favorite music act is Duran Duran.

They vacation in Bora Bora.

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« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2011, 12:04:49 AM »

And they have Chow Chow dogs....

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« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2011, 01:24:11 AM »

The gun went bang bang.

The coo-coo clock chimed.
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« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2011, 04:58:04 AM »

And Carmen went tico tico.





Man, if this ain't a wacked-out haiku junkie-bug alliterative slug fest of a thread hijack...

And not the kind of slugs in a R-390!
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« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2011, 11:17:07 AM »

Was she wearing a moo moo?
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« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2011, 04:39:48 PM »



Where are the GO-GO girls?
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« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2011, 04:48:51 PM »

Wearing Go-Go boots!

And don't forget Sigue Sigue Sputnik.

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« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2011, 09:48:41 PM »

"Never make fun of another man's gun...."

Great sig line. Reminds me of the line "Beware of the man who only has has one gun. He very probably knows how to use it".
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« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2011, 01:25:00 PM »

Man, if this ain't a wacked-out haiku junkie-bug alliterative slug fest of a thread hijack...

NAH! !  ! ! ! !  The best one was probably the famous (or infamous)
"Pickled Eggplant thread" It went on for pages and pages! ! ! !  Grin

http://amfone.net/Amforum/index.php?topic=7141.0

Which, in turn spawned this thread:

http://amfone.net/Amforum/index.php?topic=8718.0

Thread hijacks are just like AM QSOs The topic of discussion may be one thing and someone turns it around 180 degrees. Or someone makes an extreemly long "Old Buzzard" monologue and everyone else forgot what they were talking about.  Grin  Grin


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« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2011, 01:57:27 PM »

/'was going to thread cous cous, 20-20, and boo boo but figured it would be a yo yo stretch. . . soz.
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