R-807/Commie ART-13 copy

[Todd, KA1KAQ]

Knowing the affinity many here have for the ART-13/ATC, thought this mind be of interest:

http://tinyurl.com/38vwscd

Some will remember that, along with the ART-13, they also copied the BC-348 receiver as part of the project to copy detail for detail the American B-29 from three examples that made emergency landings in the USSR from missions to Japan, including the Hap Arnold.

You gotta love the guy's description.

[W2PFY]

one more from the same guy

USSR Special Forces Radio Brand New Complete set R-143 (Bagulnik)

1.5 - 19.999 MHz 1KHz step. CW/USB/ЧТ modulation, 1-10watt ( switch ) Synth , doublefreq. conv. 2 meters antenna deploy in seconds. Power 12 volts 2x12v batterys. Transmission mode automaticly swiched to 24volts.All battery never used dry. There is instruction in small battery manuals how to fill it with asid.It has big strong heavy battery compartment I show 2 last pictures. I live it in Russia, to expancive and difficult smuggle to USA.  it is belong to this set, just need to pay 250$ for shipping to get it ! it is even more heavy, than entire radio set.

Everything is included in set, only there is no tampax if oprator woman..... PRICE is CHIP.... FOX it is REAR !!!!

Radio in USA Shipping 50$ any state.

International ask price, I will do shipping discount.

[Bill, KD0HG]

What does the control labeled "Kaopectate" do?

[W3SLK]

Bill asked:

What does the control labeled "Kaopectate" do?

Why it keeps all the crap in! 

[K1JJ]

Looks like someone hit the vodka when they made the silkscreen - some of the lettering is backwards and inside out...

T

[Todd, KA1KAQ]

And P is really R or whatever.

It's a pretty amazing copy considering they had to reverse-engineer it to build jigs, molds, etc. Almost as amazing is that this particular one was built in 1970. Around the time a lot of hams here were probably starting to toss their surplus ART-13s for new transceivers.

[N8ETQ]

 the Lid Vents are pretty cool... (no pun intended ?)

/Dan

[KM1H]

It took Ivan 25 years to do the Chinese copy   And they gained 50 in technology.

[K6JEK]

Here's the story of  cloning of the whole plane.

http://www.rb-29.net/html/03RelatedStories/03.03shortstories/03.03.10contss.htm

[KC9LKE]

OK, here’s transmitter, now hand over flying squirrel!  

[KC2TAU]

Garys_lab is a real trip. He has some great descriptions but I do feel that his prices are a bit too much. The equipment he has for sale is quite interesting though as some of the engineering on some of the Soviet communication gear is really quite impressive. Considerable lengths were taken in order to ensure reliability and durability.

[Wavebourn]

What does the control labeled "Kaopectate" do?

It means Corrector. Корректор (Cyrillic). What does it mean, I don't know.

Speaking of BC-348, it was also copied, Russian copy was called УС-9 (US-9). As far as I heard, the entire machine including everything inside was copied by direct order of Stalin himself. People were afraid to argue, so even some extra holes in RT-13 were copied. The holes were made by bullets of Japanese machine-gun...

[WD8BIL]

Holy smokes

It's nice to see you again Wavebourn!!!

[w3jn]

Indeed, welcome back, Tolly!  I about fell off my chair when I saw you in the members to be approved list 

[The Slab Bacon]

Welcome back Tolly!! Good to see you here again!! It's been a llllooonnnngggg time!

[Wavebourn]

Thank you guys! It is nice to see you again!

All that time I had worked with audio only... Have some prototypes, but can't find a brave man who can take a risk and start manufacturing.

Here are some examples:

[Todd, KA1KAQ]

People were afraid to argue, so even some extra holes in RT-13 were copied. The holes were made by bullets of Japanese machine-gun...

That's absolutely true. Several bullet patches were replicated on the B-29 copies for exactly the reason you say - no one dared do otherwise.

Good to see you back, Tolly - that's some nice looking equipment you've made! There has been a lot of new audio gear coming on the market in recent years, so persistence will be the word of the day.

[Wavebourn]

People were afraid to argue, so even some extra holes in RT-13 were copied. The holes were made by bullets of Japanese machine-gun...

That's absolutely true. Several bullet patches were replicated on the B-29 copies for exactly the reason you say - no one dared do otherwise.

Yes. But what they were not afraid of, to improve if improvements were obvious. For example, US-9 is remote controlled.

here you go: http://www.radioscanner.ru/files/download/file3382/us-9_shema.djvu

Good to see you back, Tolly - that's some nice looking equipment you've made! There has been a lot of new audio gear coming on the market in recent years, so persistence will be the word of the day.

Thank you Todd!
Do you mean all that Chinese crap with undersized transformers?

[W2PFY]

Tolly, A friend who manages a cigar shop goes regularly to Montreal to what I would estimate to be a really high end audio shows and shops. I'm probably preaching to the quire here, but do you go to such shows to network?

One of the items he purchased was a stereo preamp. I haven't seen this equipment in person but i did see some pictures of his set up.

The preamp had from what I could see had four 6SN7's in there plus some other tubes. It had a beautiful wooden cabinet and was all point to point wiring. Now the kicker, the cost of that preamp was $8000.00 big ones. He must have well over 100 grand in his system. I know we beat up on audiofools all the time but I say, if you can afford it and it makes you feel good, do it

[Wavebourn]

If you calculate how much it would be to manufacture in US or Canada... Oh boy! Chassis only would cost more than several Chinese amps... We can't compete against China, unless we have some exclusive quality that they can't offer.
For example, my Pyramids amps clip at 100W per channel, but optical limiters won't allow more than 80W. That means, never clipping on any peaks. I use high quality American made line input, output, and power transformers. Each of them costs more than entire Chinese tube amp. Point to point wiring, how much time of qualified work it requires? Can Americans be paid for such job equally to Chinese workers? If I calculate fair prise for my amps made in USA you will see that $8,000.00 preamp is not bad... Unfortunately, our modern economy is not favorable to Made in USA stuff... I call it Recyclonomics, only goods made for recycling can be competitive.

[KB2WIG]

T,


its about time


klc

[Wavebourn]

T,


its about time


klc

Do you mean, it's about time to start manufacturing in U.S.? But who can afford such production? And who is brave enough to invest in manufacturing of U.S. made gear?

[KB2WIG]

its about time you posted here..........    were still waiting for your call


welcome back



klc

[Wavebourn]

Ah, thank you Kevin!
I'm still waiting for people to say, "Go for it, Tolly, it's time to build and sell your wonderful audio gear!" 

[Mike/W8BAC]

It's GREAT to see you again Tolly! I like your amp layout. Good Luck.

Mike