AM in Italia

[pe1mph]

Hello AM Lovers,

A few days ago I (pe1mph) had a qso with 2 Italian AM stations on 40 mtrs.
I listen sometimes on 40 mtrs to find AM stations...

The USA AM freq. 7290 isn't free for us...
Evenso often around 7160/7185 legale stations.

And during some time I heard AM around 7195 khz!
I listen and thought... it must comming from Italia.
Jean (F6AQK) and Fortunato (9H1ES) informed me about that freq.
Evenso they heard AM around that freq...

And some days ago (afternoon) I did a CQ on 7195 khz.
First I counldn't believe, but yes...2 stations returning for me....
- IW2CQO
- I0LBE

Both were around S7 by me.
And in the afternoon that freq. were mostly free.

Last days I keep my ears on that freq.
Sometimes a strange 'noise/carrier/station' on 7197.
Cleaner freq. can be between: 7190 - 7194 khz.

Maybe it is an idea for USA AM stations to use/listen to that freq.

Good dx,

pe1mph / Henk
Dokkum, The Netherlands

[WA3VJB]

Henk, I've run across you on the globaltuners.com site listening around during this afternoon (Europe) time frame.

Maybe you can help draw the attention of your European associates if we try to shout across the pond ?

I am ready to try -- quote me a time span, GMT ?

Afternoons there might be a little early for a path to North America, but there's a chance into your evening hours I suppose, because I start hearing the European BC stations around 1800 GMT.

Will start spinning the dial around 7160-7195 Kc starting Saturday

[Pete, WA2CWA]

Use the map:
http://www.vhfdx.info/spots/map.php?Lan=E&Frec=7&ML=M&Map=W2L&DXC=N&HF=S
Lots of 40 M East Coast to Europe activity right now (5:14 PM EST).

[pe1mph]

Henk, I've run across you on the globaltuners.com site listening around during this afternoon (Europe) time frame.

Maybe you can help draw the attention of your European associates if we try to shout across the pond ?

I am ready to try -- quote me a time span, GMT ?

Afternoons there might be a little early for a path to North America, but there's a chance into your evening hours I suppose, because I start hearing the European BC stations around 1800 GMT.

Will start spinning the dial around 7160-7195 Kc starting Saturday

Oke....
Evenso I use a lot the webreceivers in Italia to 'monitor' 7195.
http://www.globaltuners.com
Then the webreceivers in: Latina / Rome and Rimini
But last days I hear the AM stations sometimes 'loud & clear' on my own receiver!
Therefore I dicided to call CQ!!
My qso's were around 16.00 hours (by me).
I were very surpriced, because I using only 20 Watts.
Comming from my allbander....
So I used not my homemade transmitter (3705 khz).
Because I have no 7195 khz crystal (only 7159 & 7183).

Just I found this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw_VDTpJXJ8
QSO on 40 meter AM, I0LBE!

I shall try to get in contact with Italian AM stations.
To get more info about their activiti on 40 mtrs!

Greetings,

pe1mph / Henk

[WA3VJB]

Henk I am hearing a station from Florida on 7182Kc reaching the receiver at IZ0MVN in Italy at 0010GMT

It is using the incomplete signal mode of LSB.

There seems to be some sort of undisciplined operation going on however, involving wild shouting and repetitive slogans, among Americans, so I don't know.

[Opcom]

That LSB noise is what is called "slopbuckets".

Among Americans on the amateur radio, this kind of undisciplined "wild shouting and repetitive slogans" shows those persons' stupidity, and it is the activity of low-quality people.

Unfortunately, any idiot can get an amateur license here. haha Just ignore them and they will go away.

The top image is a dignified AM ham operator.

[pe1mph]

Henk I am hearing a station from Florida on 7182Kc reaching the receiver at IZ0MVN in Italy at 0010GMT

It is using the incomplete signal mode of LSB.

There seems to be some sort of undisciplined operation going on however, involving wild shouting and repetitive slogans, among Americans, so I don't know.

Yes often a strong NOISE around 7198!
Blowing all away... sometimes it sounding like RTTY.
Therefore better 7190 in Europe, or 7195 and listen in Narrow...

This info I got from Fabio: I0LBE
Italian AM info :
Monday to Friday :  7.185-7.195  MHz   Time: 14,00-15,00  Netherland local time
Saturday/Sunday :  7.185-7.195  MHz   Time: since 09,00   Netherland local time,  opportunity of QSOs from early morning to middle-afternoon
                               3.740-3.750  MHz  Time: since 09,00   Netherland local time

Some info on QRZ.com also, and here :   http://www.ik0lrg.it/index_file/Page3748.htm

     See you soon on 40 meters AM !!
      Best 73, FABIO

Greetings,

pe1mph / Henk
Dokkum / The Netherlands

[WA3VJB]

Alright, it is coming up on 1500 GMT as I post this.

Will power up now
and shout my own repetitive slogan
"CQ AM, CQ stations with a carrier"
to see if I can obtain results.

: )


Gave it a shot, and heard F1APJ on AM on 7194Kc

But could not hear myself on the loopback, and also was not hearing any of the other stateside operators nearby the frequency.

now out at 1600GMT

[Ralph W3GL]

    Paul, I note you asked Henk to use GMT (GRENWICH Mean Time) at
    least one time in his  posts but he continues to state "Netherland local
    time"...
    
    I know you can figure the time difference, Paul, but the following
    information is for those on here that know from nothing about time
    differences out in the world of DX, etc...

    There are 24 time zones on our planet (360 degrees divided by 15). 
    One rotation (360 degrees) = 24 hours...

    GRENWICH England is located on what is known as "The Prime Meridian"
    eg, NUMBER ONE time zone.  GMT is the time at "TPM". Therefore West
    of TPM (each 15 degrees), subtract 1 hour; East (the same 15 degree
    increments) add one hour...  
    
    Okay, so my handy dandy little Hallicrafters "time selector" rotary rule
    puts Amsterdam (in the Netherlands, yes?) at one hour East of GREENWICH
    (GMT) and Rome as well as Athens (where JN is hanging his hat presently)
    at two hours East of GMT... Geez, now I'm confused... Hope that covers
     the territory.

     Henk, several nights back, the night you worked the Italians on
     40 meters, you also tried working them on 3705 as I heard you about
     S-7 or so here in Delaware, called you but you came back stating you
     had QRM...  You threw in some Italion speak in your English to the
     Italos...

     I do monitor 3705 most nights from midnight to perhaps 2AM my time
     (Delaware local time to put it like you do...)  I'm 5 hours West of TPM...
     Of course, that's Standard Time, not Summer Daylight Saving Time...

     Yeah, I know, it's confusing but that's what happens when you get
      politics involved in real issues to try to resolve "non-issues"...

[pe1mph]

Alright, it is coming up on 1500 GMT as I post this.

Will power up now
and shout my own repetitive slogan
"CQ AM, CQ stations with a carrier"
to see if I can obtain results.

: )


Gave it a shot, and heard F1APJ on AM on 7194Kc

But could not hear myself on the loopback, and also was not hearing any of the other stateside operators nearby the frequency.

now out at 1600GMT

Hello!
Just I got a phone call from Jan PA3HCO.
He told me, he has worked this afternoon some Italian stations in AM on +/- 7195 khz.
Jan used his BC 610, but only +/- 75 Watts into his Inverted V ant.
He told me, between 15.00 - 16.30 hour he had been talking....
Above time is our time in the afternoon in Holland....

We keep all our eyes around 7195!!

Good DX,

Henk / pe1mph

[WA3VJB]

Among Americans on the amateur radio, this kind of undisciplined "wild shouting and repetitive slogans" shows those persons' stupidity, and it is the activity of low-quality people.

endorsed

[KB2WIG]

"  Among Americans on the amateur radio, this kind of undisciplined "wild shouting and repetitive slogans" shows those persons' stupidity, and it is the activity of low-quality people. "


"    endorsed   "


Maybee thats why its lower sideband.


klc

[WA3VJB]

For years I was reluctant to use the USB on my computer because
I thought I would have to give up 2/3rd of my signal.

"  Among Americans on the amateur radio, this kind of undisciplined "wild shouting and repetitive slogans" shows those persons' stupidity, and it is the activity of low-quality people. "


"    endorsed   "


Maybee thats why its lower sideband.


klc

[KX5JT]

For years I was reluctant to use the USB on my computer because
I thought I would have to give up 2/3rd of my signal.

Hah! That's funny Paul. USB

 I heard  you this morning with the "Breakfast Club" as you called them.  Unfortunately I was at work in the dispatch office and listening to a stream online so I couldn't chime in to say hello.  But you were all sounding great, WA3JBT, W0XV and a few others with  you from a streaming receiver in Alabama.  I'll try to join in this week on the mornings I'm home.

John

[Opcom]

USB - computer.. a hardware-esque serial connection that ought to be direct and simple using the BIOS but instead requires tedious and sometimes bizzarre software to operate. unlike a real serial port.

[KX5JT]

USB - computer.. a hardware-esque serial connection that ought to be direct and simple using the BIOS but instead requires tedious and sometimes bizzarre software to operate. unlike a real serial port.

Obviously someone who remembers having to resolve IRQ and DMA conflicts.  That wasn't so bad as I recall until you ran out of them.

[KB2WIG]

Thats why they invented the peripheral interface adapter chip, also  known as  the PIA.


klc

[Opcom]

USB - computer.. a hardware-esque serial connection that ought to be direct and simple using the BIOS but instead requires tedious and sometimes bizzarre software to operate. unlike a real serial port.

Obviously someone who remembers having to resolve IRQ and DMA conflicts.  That wasn't so bad as I recall until you ran out of them.

Indeed it was annoying especially when the mouse driver wanted COM2 and the MODEM driver wanted COM4. But the paucity of real hardware IRQs was Intel's fault for sticking to the same 64K segmented architecture, and using an increasingly elephantine o/s to virtualize the whiting of the sepulchure long after it should have been bulldozed and new foundations laid, while superior architectures arose, flourished briefly in the commercial world, and one by one faded away. The virtualization of hardware connections inside the machine and the denial of direct access to hardware started with NT, didn't it? I had a few dongles belonging to very costly software 'break' when NT came along. The software companies found this a very good excuse to force customers to pay, er.. "upgrade". With Vista and 7, it's happened again. I supose it will soon enough be possible, with processor power as it is becoming, to run Linux on the "pc" and inside it emulate anything from DOS to 98 to VAX VMS- -but it's no guarantee the old dongle will work.. I have no idea what today's "PC" architecture looks like at the point it interfaces to the processor. Has anyone seen a motherboard schematic recently? That would be very interesting.

I remember the PIA. It did take a driver to get all the benefits IIRC. Remember the tricky "false BIOS disk sector" or whatever they were called utilities for when one found oneself with a 486 and a disk over 500MB?

what a long strange road it's been. But this has nothing to do with Italian AM, I don't want to spoil it.

[WA3VJB]

virtualize the whiting of the sepulchure

Words to live by.
Thanks for that.

Right up there with
"one of 16 vestal virgins who were headed for the coast"

[pe1mph]

Received on 40 mtrs

This morning, ± 06.30 hour by me:
7160 broadcast station, S1
7175 broadcast station, S4
7185 broadcast station, S5

And I were wondering the NOISE station on ± 7198 were off air!
So the freq. 7195 khz were totaly clean, free.

Around ± 15.30 hour by me (14.30 Londen GMT, pm).
7195 khz. some Italian AM stations talking.
I did try to break in, but pity some ssb blowing all away!

Good dx,

Henk / pe1mph

[flintstone mop]

It's too bad that 40M is not uniform throughout the whirl, coz it really propagates so nicely.
When I visited the Philippines 40M was very nice, MaNature was noisy as hell, and a cacaphony of voice modes and CW on top of each other from 7.0 to 7.100 and then the Short wave B'cast above 7100.
I found a little quiet slice around 7130 and did hear FLA. USA during grey line time. Never got through.
I think K1JJ was blowing out signal meters into Iraq or Pakistan last winter with his yagi array.

FRED

[Opcom]

40 is very noisy here, even on a vertical. 20 is wonderful.

[flintstone mop]

40 is very noisy here, even on a vertical. 20 is wonderful.

OK Clark,
I have very nice condx here for 40 on vert and dipole,,,,,,,usually S-3,,,,,,,low noise lets me hear VK land easily.
FRED

[KX5JT]

40 is very noisy here, even on a vertical. 20 is wonderful.

Patrick,

That's a bit strange to me!  Maybe you are being plagued with some external noise situation e.i. line noise or computer generated hash.  As I recall, you are around Dallas, TX.  

7.160 Mhz has been having quite a bit of AM activity in this area from about 10 am to 3 pm local time (central).   At least a dozen stations from TX, LA, AR and OK are in and out during most late mornings/ early afternoons lately.  At that time, my noise floor can be anywhere from s3 to maybe s6 here  on an inverted vee but the stations even running as little as 20 watts are often at least s9!

Usual suspects include

W5GJI, Jim near Toledo Bend LA
K5SEE, John near Houston
WA5VGO, Darrell near Houston
W0VT, Lee near Houston
W5TOP, Charlie in Keller, TX
KA5RHK, Ken in DeQueen, Arkansas
KB5MD, Roy in El Dorado, Arkansas
K5WLT, Ronnie in Seguin, TX
K5LYT, Robert in Corpus Cristi
WW5K, Bruce in Natchitoches, LA
WA5BLQ, Luther in Ozone, AR

These are just some of the "local" 40 meter daytimers that play on 7.160
In fact I'm listening to Ken, Ronnie and Robert right now at 1:20 pm.

Later in the evening, I have worked people all over the states and a couple contacts from Mexico all on 7.160 AM.  Especially strong stations are the likes of K4KYV, WA3HUZ and W9AD who show up there on occasions.

Of course, I imagine Europe will not come in during the daytime but I have been occasionally tuning up on 7.190 and calling CQ AM after dark, so far I have only had domestic stations bite.

40 meters is alive and kicking for AM if one knows when and where!

John, KX5JT

[Fred k2dx]

How about some European 20m interest? Propagation is usually good to the U.S.

I work European 20m SSB stations with my T368 and sometimes they don't realise they are working an AM station... same thing happens on 75m...

I am willing to try a 20m sked (scheduled contact), just have at least a 100 watt carrier.