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« Reply #25 on: July 08, 2010, 03:14:11 PM »

In this area it's not bad, except for June, July and August.  That's when we get the full blast of humidity from the Gulf.  Normally in the summer months the so-called Bermuda High, a fixed high pressure system, hovers over the south-eastern US.  Since it is a high, not low, system, the rotation is clockwise, looking down. Therefore it steadily pumps moisture from the Gulf right through here. Whenever a northerly high pressure front moves down and pushes out the Gulf humidity, it is very pleasant here, even when the temperatures are high.

Combine the heat and humidity with the fact that poison ivy pops up on practically every square inch of unattended soil, along with the ticks that accompanied the deer that the bastards in the wildlife agency imported here, summer can be pretty damned miserable. Sometimes I feel like this place isn't fit for human habitation.

If I weren't firmly established here with a substantial plot of land, there is no way that I would ever choose to settle in this immediate area, particularly since I have no close family ties. If I lived elsewhere else and for some reason had my choice to settle somewhere in the south east, the one place I would probably choose would be Asheville, NC. From numerous visits, I have always found the climate delightful there.  Usually at least 5 degrees cooler in the summer than here, and the humidity is a lot lower.  I suppose much of the moisture precipitates out of the air on the western slopes of the Appalachians as the air is pushed up the mountains before reaching there. The only problem with the Asheville area is that real estate prices and taxes are on par with those of the north east corridor.
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« Reply #26 on: July 09, 2010, 12:09:09 AM »

Personally, I like temps between about 65° and 75°F. So, what the hell am I doing in North Central Texas, you might ask? I ask myself the same question every summer. It gets hot and humid here, but we survive.

First time I was in Ireland (2004), it got up to 75°F in Greencastle (Co. Donegal) and all the locals were whinging about how hot it was. It had been 113°F when  I flew out of DFW. I told 'em, "I'm leaving out a week after Wednesday. Y'all come back with me, 'cause I've got something I want to show you".

I don't think there's anyplace in the world that'd have my ideal WX, so I guess we all just live where we do, sometimes in spite of the WX, and enjoy it because of good friends and good neighbors.

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« Reply #27 on: July 09, 2010, 11:19:26 AM »

Welp,

 Rain is on it's way here YeeHaa.. Cheesy

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« Reply #28 on: July 09, 2010, 12:13:38 PM »

I once had a QSO back in the 80's with an OT who was a reasearch meteorologist for the National Weather Service.  He covered the whole USA.  He used the bureau's resources and spent time looking for the perfect weather in the USA so he could retire there.  He concluded it was in an area somewhere between Northern Calif and Oregon to the east. He wouldn't say exactly, trying to keep the exact location secret. He said due to an anomaly in mountains, ocean winds and other conditions, this spot saw mild weather most of the year. He spent some time explaining the effects to me, and was sold on this place being near ideal.  I've often wondered just where this Oz was... Grin

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« Reply #29 on: July 09, 2010, 12:23:52 PM »

Sounds wonderfull... Perfect weather.  I Grew up in Vista CA.  I saw vista in an almanac for the best weather and the flatest temp. Its 70 something almost year round Smiley To bad its filled with californians!
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« Reply #30 on: July 09, 2010, 12:27:48 PM »

It's Betta than Florida with all it's Transplanted Yankees..LOL what a Sand Pile. Cheesy

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« Reply #31 on: July 09, 2010, 12:50:45 PM »

Dammit!  

I had composed a reply a couple of paragraphs long, but accidentally hit a mystery key to the lower right side of the keyboard, and it took me back to the previous page, just like hitting the Go Back One Page arrow key .  When I used the right arrow key to return, all I had was a blank screen; my entire message had evaporated.

I typed a test sentence, and then tried every possible of combination of keys on that part of the keyboard, and could not duplicate the error.  I give up; I'm not about to try to remember what I typed and composee it all over again.  It wasn't that important.

That happens to me periodically; I wish I could figure out what key or combination of keys I am hitting that causes that to happen. I suppose I should periodically highlight and copy the entire message when I am composing, but sometimes forget to do so. If it's something I know is going to be long and involved, I find it best to type it up as a separate text document, and then copy and paste it into the compose box.

It's probably one of those software "features" that is supposed to be useful, but is really nothing more than a PITA - like the new Windows "Libraries" crap.  I still haven't quite made sense out of that one.

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« Reply #32 on: July 09, 2010, 12:59:25 PM »

OK, kids, there are two states in the CONUS where the highest recorded temperature has never exceeded 100 degrees.

Name them.
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« Reply #33 on: July 09, 2010, 01:12:49 PM »

He is right.. Don. get in the habbit of typing into MS word or just a simple note pad doc on your desktop. Right click,  New, text doc.  Then select the entire text with your mouse, Hit CTRL and the C key.  Then put cursor into the forum window and hit CTRL and the V key.   If you know how to do this, Sorry.. I dont know your computer abilitys.

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« Reply #34 on: July 09, 2010, 02:02:39 PM »

OK, kids, there are two states in the CONUS where the highest recorded temperature has never exceeded 100 degrees.

Name them.

Tampa Bay and Miami

That's one state

Yup, Florida is one of them.
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« Reply #35 on: July 09, 2010, 02:17:43 PM »

Trick question. None.


State    Temp    Date          Station                   Elevation (feet)
Ala.     112   Sept. 5, 1925   Centerville               345
Alaska   100   June 27, 1915   Ft. Yukon                 420*
Ariz.    128   June 29, 1994   Lake Havasu               505
Ark.     120   Aug. 10, 1936   Ozark                     396
Calif.   134   July 10, 1913   Death Valley              N/A
Colo.    118   July 11, 1888   Bennett                   5,484
Conn.    106   July 15, 1995   Danbury                   450
Del.     110   July 21, 1930   Millsboro                 20
Fla.     109   June 29, 1931   Monticello                207
Ga.      112   July 24, 1952   Louisville                132
Hawaii   100   April 27,1931   Pahala                    850
Idaho    118   July 28, 1934   Orofino                   1,027
Ill.     117   July 14, 1954   E. St Louis               410
Ind.     116   July 14, 1936   Collegeville              672
Iowa     118   July 20, 1934   Keokuk                    614
Kansas   121   July 24, 1936   Alton                     1,651
Ky.      114   July 28, 1930   Greensburg                581
La.      114   Aug. 10, 1936   Plain Dealing             268
Maine    105   July 10, 1911   N. Bridgton               450
Md.      109   July 10, 1936   Cumberland and Frederick  623, 325
Mass.    107   Aug.  2, 1975   New Bedford and Chester   120, 640
Mich.    112   July 13, 1936   Mio                       963
Minn.    114   July  6, 1936   Moorhead                  904
Miss.    115   July 29, 1930   Holly Springs             600
Mo       118   July 14, 1954   Warsaw and Union          705, 560
Mont.    117   July  5, 1937   Medicine Lake             1,950
Neb.     118   July 24, 1936   Minden                    2,169
Nev.     125   June 29, 1994   Laughlin                  605
N.H.     106   July  4, 1911   Nashua                    125
N.J.     110   July 10, 1936   Runyon                    18
N.M.     122   June 27, 1994   Lakewood                  N/A
N.Y.     108   July 22, 1926   Troy                      35
N.C.     110   Aug. 21, 1983   Fayetteville              213
N.D.     121   July  6, 1936   Steele                    1,857
Ohio     113   July 21, 1934   Gallipolis                673
Okla.    120   June 27, 1994   Tipton                    1,350
Ore.     119   Aug. 10, 1898   Pendleton                 1,074
Pa.      111   July 10, 1936   Phoenixville              100
R.I.     104   Aug.  2, 1975   Providence                51
S.C.     111   June 28, 1954   Camden                    170
S.D.     120   July 15, 2006   Kelly Ranch/Usta          2,339
Tenn.    113   Aug.  9, 1930   Perryville                377
Texas    120   Aug. 12, 1936   Seymour                   1,291
Utah     117   July  5, 1985   Saint George              2,880
Vt.      105   July  4, 1911   Vernon                    310
Va.      110   July 15, 1954   Balcony Falls             725
Wash.    118   Aug.  5, 1961   Ice Harbor Dam  475       475   
W. Va.   112   July 10, 1936   Martinsburg               435
Wis.     114   July 13, 1936   Wisconsin Dells           900
Wyo.     116   Aug.  8, 1983   Basin                     3,500
*Elevation estimated.
Source: U.S. National Climatic Data Center (last updated August 2006)


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« Reply #36 on: July 09, 2010, 03:19:31 PM »


Yeah, I just had lunch with the XYL, a former Floridian, and she said it's been over 100F there many times.

This quiz came from a record high temp map on one of the major internet news sites, usatoday.com, I think, so it must be true.
 
You mean that it's not???


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« Reply #37 on: July 09, 2010, 04:09:08 PM »

OK, kids, there are two states in the CONUS where the highest recorded temperature has never exceeded 100 degrees.

Name them.

Well, Bill, according to the chart posted by Steve, the temp reached, but did not exceed, 100 degrees f in Alaska and Hawaii.  That appears to meet the criteria of your question.  Steve's data was last updated in August 2006.  So we do not know for sure whether Alaska and Hawaii have been hotter than 100 since then, but I rather doubt it.

Florida ranks 41 out of 50 states, only reaching 109 in 1931.  It is interesting to dump that record data into Excel and look at the trends.....  I attached a spreadsheet for the weather junkies.....  Sorting it out by date shows that half of the record temps occurred in the 30s, supporting the long term cyclic trend theory as opposed to the "global warming" hullabaloo.

Alaska   100   June 27, 1915   Ft. Yukon                 420*
Hawaii   100   April 27,1931   Pahala                    850

* recordTemps.xls (17 KB - downloaded 232 times.)
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« Reply #38 on: July 09, 2010, 04:13:40 PM »

It Wainen here Aaaaah Nice an Cool again....an it rained on my roof I only got it half way done The other side was felted and drip edge installed..Oh Well...

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« Reply #39 on: July 09, 2010, 04:51:03 PM »

It doesn't need to get hot in Florida the Humidity eats you alive there.. Grin
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« Reply #40 on: July 09, 2010, 04:55:47 PM »


Florida ranks 41 out of 50 states, only reaching 109 in 1931.  It is interesting to dump that record data into Excel and look at the trends.....  I attached a spreadsheet for the weather junkies.....  Sorting it out by date shows that half of the record temps occurred in the 30s, supporting the long term cyclic trend theory as opposed to the "global warming" hullabaloo.

Using one-time record temperatures as an indicator of climatic trends is comparable to using p.e.p. to judge effective transmitter power.

It is the long term average temperature or precipitation, taken over a substantial period of time, that indicates a change in climate.

This past winter was said to be one of the coldest on record for this part of the country, but the temperature never dropped below about +8° F.  We used to expect sub-zero  temperatures every winter, but I haven't seen it even get down to zero for the past 15 or 20 years. The record for this county is supposed to be -20°, and the lowest I have ever seen my thermometer go was -18°, back in the early 80s.

If the temperature dwells a few degrees below normal for an entire month or season, especially if repeated annually over a several year period, that is a lot more significant than if during one or two isolated weather extremes, the temperature spikes tremendously above or below what would be the expected normal.

Another clear example of this is average rainfall in Nashville. It turns out that the total for the month of May was well below normal, despite the record flooding (said to be a once-in-500-year event) at the beginning of the month.  It just so happened that what rain did fall came all at once, and the rest of the month was abnormally dry. The total annual rainfall to date for this year so far is several inches below normal.
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« Reply #41 on: July 09, 2010, 05:17:35 PM »

One of the states with the highest temperatures was North Dakota!  What a sorry state.
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« Reply #42 on: July 09, 2010, 07:09:32 PM »


Heatwave continues.  Was 91 here.

Gonna be cold n' January. 

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« Reply #43 on: July 09, 2010, 08:06:58 PM »

Many of the record high temperatures are from the summer of 1936, states in the eastern half of the U.S.  The only recent record is 2006 South Dakota.
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« Reply #44 on: July 10, 2010, 07:23:22 PM »

Don, you gonna have to save the colonoscopy for next time I work you on 75 or 160.   I want to hear about it but only for when you make a 30 minute transmission haw haw--that will be what I call a real AM QSO!

Yep, I've hit the mystery key myself many times and it is a real burner isn't it.  Always happens when you don't expect it and have something that's taken you 30 minutes or more to write. 

Yes, I will be the one in the dead of winter thinking fondly of summer.   But I have learned to appreciate four distinct seasons.  I am always amazed at how the landscape changes completely in just six months.   The key is to realize there are things to do in winter, like eating some kinds of food that you just can't do in summer.  Who wants eggnog in summer for example?  Here's what's great about winter:

No bugs. 
No birds pooping on your car.
Big one--no yard work.
Of course band condx better plus no lightning to worry about; no lighting static.
You can leave antennas and gear hooked up.
No tornadoes (or at least highly unlikely)
No ozone action days (maybe you don't have them in the country).
Low humidity

Disadvantages?  Well you have to shovel show but I'll take that over yard work any day.   When it gets cold and dry there is greater chance of line noise and street lamp noise popping up.   Also no hamfests, or not as many. 

So I guess every season has its pros and cons.  What I really do not like are what I call the transition months when we get the really unstable wx in fall and spring, the wind storms and gales, temps around 35 degrees and cold rain.  Yech.

Give me a sunny dry calm day with the temp -10 F any day over that.  I've worked outside building antennas when it was 5 but the key was it was sunny, the ground was dry and there was no wind. 



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« Reply #45 on: July 10, 2010, 11:32:47 PM »

"it was sunny, the ground was dry and there was no wind"

lunar conditions.
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« Reply #46 on: July 11, 2010, 04:39:47 PM »

"it was sunny, the ground was dry and there was no wind"

lunar conditions.

Well,  regardless, you have to "suit up" to work outside under those conditions.
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« Reply #47 on: July 11, 2010, 10:50:44 PM »

Well, as compared to last summer (rainy and cold until August), this summer has been a dream.  Generally dry and warm with a breeze most (but not all) the time.

This is in Northern Mass and Southern to central New Hampshire.  Last year was pretty miserable.  Couldn't grow anything in the gardern - too much moisture and definitely not enough sun.  Guess we're making up for it this year.

An interesting note:  Ice-out (the last day for ice) at the lake in New Hampshire was the earliest on record this year (early April).. reflecting the relatively mild winter (around here).

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« Reply #48 on: July 11, 2010, 11:19:58 PM »


Well,  regardless, you have to "suit up" to work outside under those conditions.

One thing ya can't do is pick up a metal tool with bare fingers.   Grin  Occasionally some quick operation needing the dexterity of bare fingers is needed but if you touch metal you have to go inside and warm up your hands so you can feel with them again.
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