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« on: October 27, 2006, 08:38:11 AM » |
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We are looking to buy a new receiver for the lab. I just got a quote on the new Rohde & Schwarz ESU40 only $145,190 tunes to 40 GHz. but doesn't do slop bucket.
Now that is a premium rx
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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2006, 01:56:11 PM » |
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$145,190.00 Yowsa, yowsa yowsa! That is seriously beyond premium.
for that kinda money it better come with at least a years supply of pickled eggplant!
And maybe even a hot young blonde to serve it to you!
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« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2006, 03:58:14 PM » |
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We are looking to buy a new receiver for the lab. I just got a quote on the new Rohde & Schwarz ESU40 only $145,190
Is a matching speaker extra? |
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« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2006, 04:19:02 PM » |
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It is an EMI receiver with a two inch speaker. no stereo either
It does have a very accurate S meter.
Remote software is also pretty cool.
We have one with a tracking generator for sweeping circuits.
Work toys ...
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« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2006, 01:00:13 PM » |
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WOW! $145,190!!! I know what I'm not getting for Christmas!
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« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2006, 01:23:19 PM » |
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Ah, you bought the inexpensive model.
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« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2006, 10:30:23 PM » |
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we have one with a tracking generator so didn't need another.....we don't have it yet so have to limp along with the ESIB40 and ESIB7
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« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2006, 12:25:48 AM » |
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...might be a fb receiver, but fer that price, it shud not be affected by solar storms, etc...when the band is dead, it's dead, and no matter what price, you still aint gonna hear anything.......tim...sk..
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« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2006, 09:42:10 AM » |
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It won't be affected by solar storms since it will most likely be used in a shielded enclosure (screen room).  |
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« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2006, 10:06:11 AM » |
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Hey Frank...good catch !
We use an R&S ESCS30 here most of the time. The software really makes it a nice system.
Very versatile and fun to operate. Even with the mag loop indoors I can listen to Detroit WJR 760
no problem. The semi-anechoic chamber makes it fun to pump 30V/M fields at systems and watch'em meltdown !!!!
Enjoy.
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« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2006, 11:47:11 AM » |
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Bud,
Which software do you guys use. We have EMC32 but I started with ESK1.
We just ran a test this summer hitting as high as 600 v/M The system never missed a beat. We usually run 200 v/M but this was a special job. (461E / DO160E)
We have 5 different chambers.
We have one coming up we have to farm out.....may set the paint on fire.
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« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2006, 12:53:13 PM » |
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Well Frank... we use the ESK-1 updated for emissions measurements. It has a slightly better file managment.
We have a 5 meter chamber, 10 meter OATS and 3 meter shielded room. Most of the
telecommunications standards don't go much above 10V/M so we're PW on that but we run
some of our distributions at 30V/M. For the radiated immunity we use the Amplifier Reasearch software with their 150W1000 amp. (150W min. 80 - 1000 MHZ)
This is some fun schtuff to come to everyday. Like bringing the hobby to work !!
I'll get some pix of the receivers. The old goat is a 1992 Electrometrics ESC 30. Electro-mechanical band switching but still a workhorse that still gives good numbers.
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« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2006, 01:04:00 PM » |
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Ah, Electrometrics, a good AMERICAN company, not that German crap. Traitors!
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« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2006, 01:40:42 PM » |
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Yup.... right there in New York !!
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« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2006, 03:43:36 PM » |
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When I first did emi back in the '70s we had a Polarad NF102. Real men could do 3 scans in a day.
We dreamed of the Electrometrics. After I was out of it we bought a used one from Retlif but I never used it myself. The Guys here are in love with the HP8566 setup but I hate the software..
I prefer American myself but the R&S rocks. I can bang out a program in an hour or so. We have ESK1 ver 1.60 and I like the way you can overlay traces but the EMC32 is windows based and a lot easier to use.
We have a pair 406 amps (24 4cx250s) that that do 1 KW and amps up to 40 GHz.
We are hoping to buy a 2.5 KW next year
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« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2006, 07:30:10 PM » |
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Ask the old timers about Empire Devices, Stoddart or the CEI RS 111.
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« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2006, 10:17:34 PM » |
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150 grand? Youch! Just have to wait 5 or 6 years, then grab one for $2000 on ePay  |
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« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2006, 09:23:04 AM » |
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Cool stuff Frank. I missed that startup of this lab but they had a Sinclair setup that,as you say, a real man can take 3 scans in a day with. I just scaped it out this summer.
For development I use the HP(now Agilent)E7404A with software. Its a real nice analyzer setup for EMI work. Good to 14Ghz. The software is windows and very easy to use. I wish it worked with the R&S. That would be a kickass setup.
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« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2006, 11:09:00 AM » |
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Hi Bud,
Boss was just at a customer facility and was telling me about that set up.
I like the ECM32 graphics better looking at the plots he brought home with him.
Back to programming DO160 CATM RE so we can stop using the HP8566 set up.
I really don't like that old software to darn slow.
I'm hoping one of our 8566s land in my shack one day.
Design is more fun that testing. I do both. We are trying do do some real high performance pc board design.
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« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2006, 12:07:14 PM » |
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Hey you guys in the know.....ever dream of a biconical antenna scaled up for 160 meters???
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« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2006, 12:53:04 PM » |
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So, what is it (in engrish) that you guys do, and design, and use this equipment for?
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« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2006, 01:33:26 PM » |
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8566: Best spec an ever made.
The biconical is just a fat, wideband dipole. It wouldn't work any better on 160 than a regular dipole. Would be a big, cool looking mutha though.
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« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2006, 02:12:45 PM » |
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Yupper........I remember the first time I got to play with one in 1982.
Actually the one I played with in 1982 is still in new condition barely used.
We have one with minor mechanical problems. I told the guys I would take it home and fix it then bring it back if we ever need it. You can't get them repaired any more but they still will calibrate the beast.
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« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2006, 02:27:20 PM » |
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So, what is it (in engrish) that you guys do, and design, and use this equipment for?
I do compliance testing for a large telecommunications company. FCC Part 15, European 55022, IEC 61000 series, GR 499 and 1089 ect... These receivers actually measure emissions with better than average accuracy. Most measurments use the Dbuv/M scale althought some specs are in micro or milivolts. Frank: That would be a beast to behold. It might be usable up to 40 meters. I'd think however, the inherent inductance/capacitance in a structure that large would limit anything above that on in a fundamental mode. But.... think of the multi-wavelength mode octapuses we could create in the ether !!!! |
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« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2006, 04:44:24 PM » |
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I remember making the XYL go to the commie embasy in Washington a couple times to stand at the gate and check out their cage dipole on the roof. The commies guarding the lomo must have thought I was some kind of a trouble maker.
Earlier that day we got the bums rush out of the rose garden by the S.S. when we blended in with a bill signing party rather than standing in line withall the other tax payers.
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