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Jeff OGM
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« on: March 02, 2006, 05:52:43 PM »
Check out this pic...

http://aip.org/png/2006/250.htm

This is what happens when you charge up a lot of capacitors, then switch them all into series to generate a 160 million watt discharge! (8 million volts at 20 million amps)

The explanation for the pic is here...

http://www.aip.org/pnu/2006/split/767-3.html

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« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2006, 08:35:34 PM »
Sandia.....one of the coolest places on earth
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« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2006, 09:42:13 PM »
Wouldn't that be a cool job?
Building the ultimate zorch machine on purpose.
And getting paid for it.
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« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2006, 06:54:37 AM »
So cool! What a beautiful photograph!
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« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2006, 07:48:57 AM »
I want one !

Imagine the zorches I could put into Lake Erie !
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« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2006, 08:49:11 AM »
Bill,
You would be eating a lot of fish after that discharge....
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« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2006, 08:50:08 AM »
This reminds me of my Westinghouse transmitter. When in operation I have a chicken wire fence in front of the transmitter to keep any arks safely routed to ground. X-rays have not proven to be a problem, but you can see the fence pattern on a nearby wall when the transmitter is off. I asked another expert in the field of loose electrons and he indicated to me that it was most likely a branding effect, whereas the chicken wire gets so hot that it’s image is transferred to the nearby wall.
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« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2006, 08:54:03 AM »
Better check your calculator...
8 million volts at 20 million amps is 160 terawatts (160,000,000,000,000 watts)  Shocked
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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2006, 09:19:52 AM »
Quote from: W2PFY on March 03, 2006, 08:50:08 AM
This reminds me of my Westinghouse transmitter. When in operation I have a chicken wire fence in front of the transmitter to keep any arks safely routed to ground. X-rays have not proven to be a problem, but you can see the fence pattern on a nearby wall when the transmitter is off. I asked another expert in the field of loose electrons and he indicated to me that it was most likely a branding effect, whereas the chicken wire gets so hot that it’s image is transferred to the nearby wall.
  Captain Marvelous at the Westinghouse Huh
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« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2006, 09:29:02 AM »
I want to modulate those arcs. Anyone have a big "Bunsen Burner" to put in series with it?
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« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2006, 10:55:57 AM »
just pdm it with raw gas Joe
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« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2006, 11:13:24 AM »
Quote from: WA1GFZ on March 03, 2006, 10:55:57 AM
just pdm it with raw gas Joe

No kiddin! In Robinson's 1918 "Manual of Radiotelephony" he goes into modulated Poulson arcs and wild stuff like modulating an alcohol burner, etc. Why not LPG?
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« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2006, 11:34:51 AM »
I remember one time Tom Vu PDM modulated an arc across his feed line and made a cool echo through the woods as Tim and I watched under the antenna.
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« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2006, 11:42:07 AM »
The US Navy (NRL) has worked w/ flame modulation in comms and weapon systems...... really ....  klc
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« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2006, 01:54:29 PM »
And what about those occasional 'positive' lightning bolts?
Which have a potential of up to a gigavolt,  a peak current of 300,000 amps and can last for hundreds of milliseconds. Those are the bolts that can leave a steel radio tower looking like a burnt match. They'll even generate bursts of gamma rays.
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« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2006, 05:42:00 PM »
WB3JOK wrote... "Better check your calculator...
8 million volts at 20 million amps is 160 terawatts (160,000,000,000,000 watts)"

It wasn't until after I posted that I realized how silly the mistake was.  But, after all, it's just a thread title, so why bother going back to put in the additional six zeros?

But you get the prize for picking up the mistake when no-one else did!  Your prize is a month by the lake at the Pointdexter Math Camp in Cosine, Nude Hamster, complete with daily exercises in radio related mathematics, evening Pi calculation contests, and a free trip to the slide rule museum in Manchester!

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« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2006, 08:12:04 PM »
Quote from: W2PFY on March 03, 2006, 08:50:08 AM
This reminds me of my Westinghouse transmitter. When in operation I have a chicken wire fence in front of the transmitter to keep any arks safely routed to ground. X-rays have not proven to be a problem, but you can see the fence pattern on a nearby wall when the transmitter is off. I asked another expert in the field of loose electrons and he indicated to me that it was most likely a branding effect, whereas the chicken wire gets so hot that it’s image is transferred to the nearby wall.

Terry - That's some serious RF!
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« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2006, 07:31:57 PM »
Quote from: Jeff 'OGM on March 03, 2006, 05:42:00 PM
But you get the prize for picking up the mistake when no-one else did!  Your prize is a month by the lake at the Pointdexter Math Camp in Cosine, Nude Hamster, complete with daily exercises in radio related mathematics, evening Pi calculation contests, and a free trip to the slide rule museum in Manchester!

Forget the Math Camp, I want to hear more about Nude Hamsters!!!
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