Dumb Hams

[Steve - WB3HUZ]

Friggin dumb hams. The transmitter in a space suit crapped out. And to top it all off, one of them can't spell! Here's the headline

Huston We Have A Problem! - SuitSat is Dead, SuitSat Is Dead

http://www.qrz.com/ib-bin/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST&f=3&t=113941


Maybe he's calling the spirit of the long dead and famous movie director John Huston, or his daughter, the actress Anjelica?

[John Holotko]

The spellin    is about as bad as the IM kiddies.  Getting back to  the spacesuit I read somewhere that  the crap  out likely occurred because the temperatures within the suit fell way beyond the operating parameters  of the transmitter or batteries. Weren't they aware of this BEFORE they put the thing into orbit ??  Haven't there been enough launches to be aware of such things as maintaining operating temperature ??  It may have been worth the extra time and money to attempt to build some means of thermal stabilization for the equipment before blasting it into the cosmos.

[Steve - WB3HUZ]

One would think so!

[W1UJR]

One would think so!

So who is dumber, the ham who mispelled "Huston" and "mircale" or the engineers who designed the suit? 

[WA1GFZ]

That was a Ruskie suit.
 UTC Space & Sea makes the good ones. They are made in the building next door and it is a very big deal to get it right.

[John Holotko]

The ruskies generally made garbage.I am surprised they bothered with a Ruskie suit to begin with.
 

[W1ATR]

If I'm not mistaken, somewhere on the SuitSat web page, it says they shut off the heating system in the suit to conserve battery power. Maybe they should'a paid some nasa contractor a couple million tax dollars to design some space long johns for that kenmore HT.

[John Holotko]

If I'm not mistaken, somewhere on the SuitSat web page, it says they shut off the heating system in the suit to conserve battery power. Maybe they should'a paid some nasa contractor a couple million tax dollars to design some space long johns for that kenmore HT.

They should have done what any group of sensible hams  would have done.  Put a Viking 2 up into orbit powered off a plutonium power supply.

[W1UJR]

They should have done what any group of sensible hams  would have done.  Put a Viking 2 up into orbit powered off a plutonium power supply.

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Steve W8TOW]

I would have offered to build the transmitter, but it would have been a tube job a full gallon, and
they probably would not have liked my idea for a power supplly, let alone the frequency. I would have wanted to use...7047kc!
73 steve w8tow

[KL7OF]

The fly was open.......

[WA1GFZ]

Come on, How dumb was it really
That suit was crapped out that was why it went out the hatch.
At least there was no human inside when it failed.
I've seen them building them here it is a very big deal to get it right.
You just don't throw it out the hatch for fun.

[Pete, WA2CWA]

Believing everything you read on QRZ is like reading the Tabloids and believing every thing written there is true.
The "Suit" is still operating after a little over a week in orbit.

See here:
http://www.remote.arrl.org/news/stories/2006/02/13/3/?nc=1

[K1MVP]

Believing everything you read on QRZ is like reading the Tabloids and believing every thing written there is true.
The "Suit" is still operating after a little over a week in orbit.

See here:
http://www.remote.arrl.org/news/stories/2006/02/13/3/?nc=1

OH,--but Pete,--WE CAN "believe" all the propaganda spewed out by the ARRL
on the "ARRL NEWS" webpage,--yep,--sure,--like HR is "growing leaps and bounds"
or WILL grow leaps and bounds, AND there IS still "magic" like years ago to be
found in ham radio,--just ask the boys in Newington.
 
And we are hearing all about the results of the comments to the FCC on these
bandwidth issues,(yea sure)
Oh I know, "we"--Joe average ham were "brainwashed" by the naysayers.

                                              73, MVP

P.S, Looks to me like QST is just another "tabloid", which may be soon
      available in your nearest foodmarket "checkout counter", IMO

[Pete, WA2CWA]

OH,--but Pete,--WE CAN "believe" all the propaganda spewed out by the ARRL
on the "ARRL NEWS" webpage,--yep,--sure,--like HR is "growing leaps and bounds"
or WILL grow leaps and bounds, AND there IS still "magic" like years ago to be
found in ham radio,--just ask the boys in Newington.
 
And we are hearing all about the results of the comments to the FCC on these
bandwidth issues,(yea sure)
Oh I know, "we"--Joe average ham were "brainwashed" by the naysayers.

                                              73, MVP

P.S, Looks to me like QST is just another "tabloid", which may be soon
      available in your nearest foodmarket "checkout counter", IMO

In my opinion, even after 47 years, every time I turn on the rig I still find magic on the amateur bands. If you can't find "the magic" in amateur radio anymore, like years ago or even yesterday, you have probably outlived its glow, which, for many of us,  still provides fun, enjoyment, and satisfaction.

Read and believe what you want. It's a free country.

The SuitSat is still weak, but operating.

[K1MVP]

CWA/quote,
In my opinion, even after 47 years, every time I turn on the rig I still find magic on the
amateur bands. If you can't find "the magic" in amateur radio anymore, like years ago or even yesterday, you have probably outlived its glow, which, for many of us,  still provides fun, enjoyment, and satisfaction.

Read and believe what you want. It's a free country.

The SuitSat is still weak, but operating.

Looks like you are "reading" and "believing" what you want,--The FACTS ARE ham
radio NO LONGER attracts young people as it did years ago,--and the ARRL is still
in DENIAL on this.

Somewhere I read, the "ARRL is on the cutting edge of technogy",--yea sure,
It`s industry that`s been "driving" technology for the past 30 plus years, NOT the ARRL.
The "boys' in Newington, have "been asleep" for the past 35 years,--or too busy
trying to get the #`s up, and many of the "bean counters" are just starting to
"wake up",(or maybe not)--yep lots of REAL leadership, IMO.

                                         73, K1MVP
P.S.,
Again,--there has been no answer to my "querrie" about why we have NOT HEARD
any comments from Newington about comments to the FCC on these bandwidth
issues.

Maybe the secret ad hoc committee has been called in to advise ZZ about how
to go about writing his next editorial in QST.
Man this should prove REAL interesting,--more DENIAL, and PROPAGANDA maybe?
As far as the SuitSat still weak,and opreating,--yep,--buts its about to take its "last gasp".

[W1RKW]

P.S.,
Again,--there has been no answer to my "querrie" about why we have NOT HEARD
any comments from Newington about comments to the FCC on these bandwidth
issues.

ARRL will comment way long after the comment period just so they can get the last word in and to shift blame some where else when everything falls apart.

[Pete, WA2CWA]

Looks like you are "reading" and "believing" what you want,--The FACTS ARE ham
radio NO LONGER attracts young people as it did years ago,--and the ARRL is still
in DENIAL on this.

Somewhere I read, the "ARRL is on the cutting edge of technogy",--yea sure,
It`s industry that`s been "driving" technology for the past 30 plus years, NOT the ARRL.
The "boys' in Newington, have "been asleep" for the past 35 years,--or too busy
trying to get the #`s up, and many of the "bean counters" are just starting to
"wake up",(or maybe not)--yep lots of REAL leadership, IMO.

                                         73, K1MVP
P.S.,
Again,--there has been no answer to my "querrie" about why we have NOT HEARD
any comments from Newington about comments to the FCC on these bandwidth
issues.

Maybe the secret ad hoc committee has been called in to advise ZZ about how
to go about writing his next editorial in QST.
Man this should prove REAL interesting,--more DENIAL, and PROPAGANDA maybe?
As far as the SuitSat still weak,and opreating,--yep,--buts its about to take its "last gasp".

"Somewhere I read, the "ARRL is on the cutting edge of technogy""
You almost got it right. The quote comes from the W1AW Endowment Fund request:

"W1AW is equipped to serve as a focal point during major disaster and other emergencies, even when the power is out for extended periods. In the wake of the devastation of Hurricane Katrina, W1AW was manned 24 hours for days following landfall to ensure there was adequate support of the ARRL field organization and hundreds of volunteers.

W1AW is also active in investigating new technology in the science of radio. It is involved in testing the new D-Star system and has added Winlink to its capabilities.

Now we are working to build a permanent fund to cover W1AW annual operations and capital needs. Your support will help keep W1AW at the cutting edge of technology. I know you share with me a strong sense of history and a desire for W1AW to continue as an active and vibrant station, contributing to the Amateur Radio community for years to come."

[WA1GFZ]

The Arrl is just like every other business... infested with over educated idiots forming teams to make changes to appear like leadership. 
This is the first thing that needs outsourcing but it will be the last.

[John Holotko]

The Arrl is just like every other business... infested with over educated idiots forming teams to make changes to appear like leadership. 
This is the first thing that needs outsourcing but it will be the last.

Not too long ago I did a consulting job for a small French company. Dealing with their upper management was a pleatsure. They listened to good advice, they allocated funds and spent money sensibly and they considered  the advice / opinions of their workers to be worthy of consideration. Try  and find that in this country these days.  Far and few between.

[Pete, WA2CWA]

                                         73, K1MVP
P.S.,
Again,--there has been no answer to my "querrie" about why we have NOT HEARD
any comments from Newington about comments to the FCC on these bandwidth
issues.

Maybe the secret ad hoc committee has been called in to advise ZZ about how
to go about writing his next editorial in QST.
Man this should prove REAL interesting,--more DENIAL, and PROPAGANDA maybe?
As far as the SuitSat still weak,and opreating,--yep,--buts its about to take its "last gasp".

In my opinion, I'm not sure it makes any sense for them to comment on all the input sent to the FCC. Based on Paul's disscussion with Sumner back in Nov/DEC 05, they already knew they were going to have opposition going into filing their petition. If I were them, I would wait till the FCC responds and then formulate an editorial. I think if they get only Part 97 relief, i.e. being able for amateurs to experiment with new modes without having to go through the NRPM process each time, they would be satisified. The bandwidth pitch, was an orderly way to segregate similar mode bandwidths across an amateur band. As I said in my comments, the expansion of the Winlink stuff made no sense and the current 97.221 rules for it should be maintained.

[K1MVP]

Hey Pete,

Just looked at the ARRL "news page",--still nothing about the "comments" filed
to the FCC on RM-11306,--Gee I wonder why?

If the geneal ham community is "dumb",--maybe its got something to do with
the ARRL propaganda sheet that "filters" out what it wants, and "brags"
about "inconsequential stuff", OR "reacts" after the fact,and tries and "gather"
last minute support by promoting the next issue of QEX.

Hmmm.--first time I have actually seen them "pushing" QEX on the newspage with
a photo of the front cover.
They usually show a copy of QSTon the "news-page",--but the  next copy will
probably be late, as the forth-comming editorial is probably still being "discussed"
behind closed doors with the ad hoc digital committee,--no doubt.

                                            73, MVP
 
P.S,--I stand "corrected"--"partial cover" of QEX magazine

[Pete, WA2CWA]

Hey Pete,

Just looked at the ARRL "news page",--still nothing about the "comments" filed
to the FCC on RM-11306,--Gee I wonder why?

If the geneal ham community is "dumb",--maybe its got something to do with
the ARRL propaganda sheet that "filters" out what it wants, and "brags"
about "inconsequential stuff", OR "reacts" after the fact,and tries and "gather"
last minute support by promoting the next issue of QEX.

Hmmm.--first time I have actually seen them "pushing" QEX on the newspage with
a photo of the front cover.
They usually show a copy of QSTon the "news-page",--but the  next copy will
probably be late, as the forth-comming editorial is probably still being "discussed"
behind closed doors with the ad hoc digital committee,--no doubt.

                                            73, MVP
 
P.S,--I stand "corrected"--"partial cover" of QEX magazine

"Gee I wonder why?"
I already stated my opinion in the previous post.

"ham community is "dumb""
Read the initial post that started this thread. Has nothing to do with ARRL.

[Steve - WB3HUZ]

Come on Pete, you know all that is wrong with amateur radio is the fault of the ARRL.