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« on: March 19, 2019, 04:27:44 AM »

not the best vids - but this is only the tip of the iceberg there. This one collects everything! Lots of good old electronic stuff, suitable for parts and classical builders (and a lot of unrelated electronics and other items). Unfortunately he wants to remain secret right now and I was rushed with the camera and sometimes poor lighting. I tried to get mostly the stuff we might use but it's well-mixed and there are some very interesting assemblies and equipment so I just shot all of it along the pathways inside the building. There is much more, maybe 10x as much  Shocked, for another update at another time.

Uploading now. Might take a couple hours as the vids all-together are some 4GB

http://bunkerofdoom.com/hoard4/index.html
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« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2019, 10:53:04 AM »

From what I saw... 90%+ junque.
The jukebox is the best thing I noticed.
The old TV stuff? Junk, unless someone has a museum or a kid who wants to spend all
day disassembling them for the power iron and a few other parts... the old TV station NTSC
stuff? Nobody wants anymore. Sad

Otherwise, just random parts of some, but limited value due to the effort required to "harvest".

I'd take the shelves! Cheesy

IF you run into an old portable SONY R-R VCR with 3 speeds, I need one to rescue a tape
that was recorded "slow" speed. They were made for schools and the like.

Ah well... <sigh>
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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2019, 12:10:53 PM »

From what I saw... 90%+ junque.


Gads. When I look at that stuff I am grateful I stopped accumulating parts and equipment over 20 years ago. When ya have enough you gotta know when you have enough.

There but for the grace of God goes many of us potential ham hoarders...

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« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2019, 01:22:57 PM »

I'm showing this to my wife. Hopefully she will stop complaining and realize I really don't have that much "stuff"!
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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2019, 02:31:38 PM »

Wonderfull!!  these days people don't appreciate anything, until THEY need one, look at the prices they get for just common parts now.
looks like there is something for everyone there, very Cool.
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« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2019, 02:38:00 PM »

Neat find, but I do feel sorry for loved ones who are left having to sort, sell, or junk the mounds of stuff accumulated by "collectors" over the years.  I hopefully have several decades left on this beautiful planet, but concern for my wife and daughter does limit how much I "collect".
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« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2019, 04:19:47 PM »

The only things that are mine were at the end, starting with video #8, the scopes mentioned, the large-ish chokes, panel meters, TS-505 VTVMs, and boxes of mosly unused classic radio parts back there in the dark.. Those are extensions of my 'junkbox' and yall know I collect rackmount scopes. This spring I'm going to go through all of those boxes of parts and probably dispose of a lot. Meaning, if there are 100 of those ceramic fuse holders, 75 of them probably have to go. All that whole aisle of stuff in the last video #12 came from a closed old-time surplus store. Too bad it was so dark and we were out of time.

What's my own philosophy? Example the TS-505 VTVMs:
Compare its high input Z to a Simpson 260 and its ability to measure 500MHz RF volts to any DVM. I have 4 of them in the shop, calibrated and working. I will never wear 4 out.
No one has wanted to pay even $5 for one, It's like they are too lazy to even get the 5 tubes out? It uses a 1mA meter BTW. Does anyone casually measure RF voltage any more? It's to where not enough people build anything. See above about disposing.

What I have stored with him has got to be moved out. One receptacle or another.
Should I have an AM Parts Party and invite the local AM Gangstas?

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The shelves - that would be possible once the place is more emptied!


Everything else in the videos is his.
(also see one of his other hoards: http://bunkerofdoom.com/hoard/index.html ) I am saying, there are 4 or 5 of these.

Not all his stuff is junk but this is the junkiest facility, I guess. Much could not be reached or seen so can't be judged. One thing I do want to retrieve from there is a VPH-1292 3-CRT projector. It has 9" 09MFX3 tubes, >700 lumens, and makes 2000x1600p -I have seen full bandwidth analog HD from a 1" reel to reel VTR on this. It's mounted in a custom sealed transport case and should be perfect. When the lid is off, moving a lever causes the unit to hydraulically rise up from the case, ready to use. When not in use, well, it's a 250 LB coffee table I guess. I used to repair them and have aligned that one. He wants it gone.

I believe the true 'scrap+trash content' is more like 60-70%. That would exclude working vacuum tube gear, tube sets-for-parts, and loose parts. Numbers are only opinions anyway.

Things like the tacky old lamps, antique fans, etc. who knows. Collectors used to buy the fans. For a while, tacky 1950s-60s lamps were in fashion. He was repairing Sony VTRs, but no one uses tape any more, so those are headed for the dumpster, along with all non-pro/non-broadcast/non-vacuum tube CRT monitors, as there are small groups who want those older or better items.

But look at it this way, my other friend there found a working solid state 10 watt professional amp, free, go figure.

Unfortunately my collector friend has hoarded every single item for years and years. He has held on to too much stuff long beyond where it has any use. If 80-85% goes away, that would be great!
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« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2019, 04:25:08 PM »

I'm showing this to my wife. Hopefully she will stop complaining and realize I really don't have that much "stuff"!

Buy her a nice present. Does she cook? Like an antique electric mixer? Saves a lot of time! I can get you a deal!



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« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2019, 10:11:05 PM »


IF you run into an old portable SONY R-R VCR with 3 speeds, I need one to rescue a tape
that was recorded "slow" speed. They were made for schools and the like.

Ah well... <sigh>

Is that a 1/2" tape, black&white open reel to reel VTR? Takes about a 6" reel or so?

there are two kinds of sony, incompatible format but same tape and look similar, early and late. 1969 the division. early ones were skip-field, didnt record sync but regenerated it. Later were alternating field full electronics and sync. All one speed except the variable speed deck for slow motion, all record at 7.5 ips IIRC. maybe google "sonly 1/2" reel video recorder"
https://www.rewindmuseum.com/images3/sonytcv2000.gif

Also the 'Concord', another 1/2" machine with has a proprietary format but same physical tape.
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/H~AAAOSw0O9bJBtg/s-l300.jpg

People have to try the tape to see which format it is.
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« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2019, 10:17:31 PM »

Wonderfull!!  these days people don't appreciate anything, until THEY need one, look at the prices they get for just common parts now.
looks like there is something for everyone there, very Cool.

I would like to have a 25" or (22" round) tube type TV. Thing is, something goes wrong, there are no more CRTs, ever, and even though i used to service those neat old sets, they are all doomed.

I do have a 21" black and white set that is unchecked, and a black&white 10 or 12" am/fm/TV/phonograph that I restored 30 years ago and was working, but last time was turned on did not work. I have extra CRTs for that one.

Just as with an old radio, never just plug one in and try it.. they will damage irreplaceable parts fast if something serious is wrong.

I will say this. The locations are sort of a secret but if you want to do some shopping it can be arranged and the man isn't greedy.
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« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2019, 12:04:32 PM »

I have seen the youtube-and websites of the people and groups dedicated to restoring the old tube Television sets. I have seen the internet sites for the groups and companies that still rebuild pictureTubes.
one cool thing about HAM Radio is that you can transmit analog signals and the old tv sets can be modified etc. to receive,etc. etc.
those vtvm you mention sound very cool.
of course an old VCR and a1950's tv set is all you need for a fun Saturday night.
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« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2019, 01:49:49 PM »


IF you run into an old portable SONY R-R VCR with 3 speeds, I need one to rescue a tape
that was recorded "slow" speed. They were made for schools and the like.

Ah well... <sigh>

Is that a 1/2" tape, black&white open reel to reel VTR? Takes about a 6" reel or so?
Yes. B&W.
1/2" tape reel to reel seems right.

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there are two kinds of sony, incompatible format but same tape and look similar, early and late. 1969 the division. early ones were skip-field, didnt record sync but regenerated it. Later were alternating field full electronics and sync. All one speed except the variable speed deck for slow motion, all record at 7.5 ips IIRC. maybe google "sonly 1/2" reel video recorder"
https://www.rewindmuseum.com/images3/sonytcv2000.gif

Given that this was borrowed from a school likely in 1970 or 1971, PROBABLY  it was pre 1969.
I recall 3 speeds, switch selectable. Could have been two speeds.
Unfortunately, we recorded on the slow speed to buy us more time...

Also the 'Concord', another 1/2" machine with has a proprietary format but same physical tape.
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/H~AAAOSw0O9bJBtg/s-l300.jpg

People have to try the tape to see which format it is.

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Assuming I still have the tape, I'd need a machine! Cheesy
I did try it on a later SONY 1/2" machine and there was no sync...
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« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2019, 03:39:43 PM »

We had to move our labs from one location in Hudson County NJ to another in Newark NJ. I had 30 years of audio / video - consumer / broadcast equipment. I cherry picked the facility and walked away with some new vintage Technics audio gear in sealed boxes, several musical keyboards and a garage full of test equipment. The 1", 1/2" and 3/4" video equipment along with production switchers, TBC's and countless broadcast cameras went into the dumpster - it hurt, but no one wanted it. Today's younger generation doesn't know what this stuff is or how to use it - let alone fix it. Maybe the guys from American Picker would be interested?
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« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2019, 04:54:59 PM »

just curious,but what are you asking for the TS-505 vtvm's, how many are available?
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