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« Reply #25 on: December 04, 2014, 01:11:20 PM »

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« Reply #26 on: December 04, 2014, 01:29:31 PM »

you can drill a hole in the tube between the 2 pins that cost the arc, and use the tube again.
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« Reply #27 on: December 04, 2014, 01:32:29 PM »

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« Reply #28 on: December 04, 2014, 01:37:24 PM »

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« Reply #29 on: December 05, 2014, 01:14:52 PM »

Here you can see how nice the 6146 tubes fit in the Apache , i tried to fit the 807 but to fat ,plus you need to change sockets


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« Reply #30 on: December 06, 2014, 10:47:08 PM »

Those 6146's look nice in there. I won't argue idling current and fidelity, it is a communications circuit. Just go by the tube manuals. With 6146 there is no need for ceramic sockets because the plate is on the glass and the highest voltage on the socket is the G2 voltage.

Tim WA1HLR opined about the cause and solution of the arcing back in 2009. Makes a good case for adding spark gaps to the primary of the mod transformer too. Amazing what you can find in the archives on here Cheesy:

Al VE3AJM

Title: Re: modulator tubes in apache
 Post by: Tim WA1HnyLR on January 29, 2009, 01:34:46 PM
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 We must ask ourselves, why do 6CA7s crapout in the modulator of the Apache or flash over at the socket?  ... De Tim WA1HnyLR

In the case of the Czech bootleg amps, an 800V plate supply, plus the square wave and distortion abuses of guitar players, made the sockets arc from Plate terminal to another terminal or GND. The tubes took the volts, but only the ceramic sockets worked. The EL34's in question would have been UK-made or  Russian/Tesla brand. It may have no bearing on this application of transmitters and China tubes.
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« Reply #31 on: December 06, 2014, 11:36:20 PM »

Hey Peter,

John VA3POS did a nice job on that Apache transmitter. It sounded very good when he had it on the air earlier this year. Tims explanation of the cause and cure for the arcing around the EL34s and the original ceramic tube sockets, removed the mystery created on that issue in the TX-1.

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« Reply #32 on: December 08, 2014, 01:59:20 PM »

HI, AL
I think I have here somewhere all the changes and Schematics from john , I will send to you when I find them.
peter
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