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« on: June 21, 2011, 04:17:31 AM »

Hi!

I have the possibility to lay my hands on some Collins stuff.

HF-8020 PA
HF-8030 PS
HF-8010A Exciter
HF-8090 Remote ctrl

The equipment is in excellent condition, probably never used, just installed.
So, to one of the interesting questions, is this equipment known to be “good stuff”
or will it just make my hair turn grey over night? I’m 44 years old and starting to see some grey hair, the beard is also starting to turn grey…  

Any ideas / comments about the equipment, never mind the colour of my hair….
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« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2011, 05:17:36 AM »

No good.
Not a single tube in it.

Buy it cheap and flip it for something better.

http://www.tomeidenshi.co.jp/frend/HF-8014A/HF-8014A-E.html
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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2011, 08:39:37 AM »

Well Paul, at least there is a 4CX1500B in the final. But since it doesn't glow in the dark, maybe it should be called a transistor?  Wink

73/Morgan
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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2011, 09:09:32 AM »

Very good stuff hope you get the cables. I've had a couple chances to get the matching receiver. The model with the tuning knob goes for real money but the thumbwheel frequency entry can be bought cheap.
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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2011, 01:03:23 PM »

Hi!

Unfortunatly the RX is not included, I would be nice to have one...
The equipment is ready to use, complete documentation, extension cards/cables and a couple of boxes with spareparts. 
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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2011, 02:39:25 PM »

Jump on it! receivers turn up from time to time. If it is in new condition it should out last you.
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« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2011, 02:06:41 PM »

So Morgan, are you on the air with it yet ?

Please QSY


hee hee

Always nice to get a good deal on mint gear.  My example -- two, never used, high powered VHF Motorola HT600, 6 channel jobs and "CN" late production. Their serial numbers were within a few notches of each other, so they'd probably been together on a shelf somewhere the past 20 years.  $10/each.    I put some simplex frequencies in 2 channels, and weather radio channels with tone decoding for squelched alerts, and they've been great.



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« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2011, 09:12:03 PM »

HT600 is a good radio.
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« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2011, 02:32:26 PM »

Hi!

Paul, the transmitter is not at home yet. Since we will be moving to a new QTH, starting this week, it will take a little bit of time before I can have it on the air.

Speaking of finding old new stuff... I've got a 51J-4 that was discoverd about 15 years ago, brand new. I bougt it from the second private owner.

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« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2011, 08:24:20 AM »

heres the receiver you want. Sorry didnt realize that you were in sweden this stuff cannot be exported.To bad for you. Sad
Post some pictures for all of us.

73s


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« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2011, 05:25:43 PM »

Thank's for the picture! Actually I've found a possible RX for my equipment, located in Europe.
But, it makes me wonder... are they made of pure gold?
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« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2011, 04:17:00 PM »

can you post a picture of the equitment
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« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2011, 06:08:09 AM »

Hi!

Well, I will, as soon as I have it. It needs to be picked up, and I have not done that yet.
Just moved in to a new QTH, from an apartment to a house. I'm busy....
(The garage is bigger than the apartment we had!   :-)  ) 
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« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2011, 04:14:10 PM »

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« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2011, 06:13:07 PM »

Well, the stuff is finally home now. With help from a good friend who took a trip to Denmark were he picked up the equipment. Everything seems to be in very good condition, judging by the colour of the 4CX1500B it has seen no or very little use. Documentation and some spare parts etc were also included. I will take some photos as soon as I find the camera.

While carrying the power supply down to the cellar, I thought that I must start exercise to get stronger. Then I realized that I weights 158 lbs (71.6 kg).
What I need now is a HF-8040 antenna coupler, that would be nice to have...   
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« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2011, 11:01:41 PM »

You cant determine the use by the color of the tube. The blower would keep the tube nice and cool.The tube should look new until the day the tube wears out.Unless there is some sort of major fault.
please post some pictures.
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« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2011, 03:11:18 AM »

Hi!

You are of course right, looking at the colour of the tube is not a reliable method.
However, my experience is that tubes that have seen many running hours often show some discolouration. To be more correct(?), they show oxidation of the surface.

Having had the time to make a quick investigation of the stuff, everything indicates that the equipment is very close to NOS. And this is in line with the information from the seller.

The thing I need now is an antenna coupler HF-8040, if anyone knows were to find one, please let me know. I know were to get an 851S-1 with preselector HF-8060, we will se what happens. Any advice? How well does the receiver perform? Receiver options to look for?   
 
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« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2011, 08:31:10 AM »

I had an 851S-1 and it was an OK receiver.  Better than the 651S-1.  Make sure you get the complement of filters, if possible, because they're some oddball IF frequency (460 KHz, or 450, or something).  The optical encoder in mine was bad; just needed one transistor replaced and it was good to go.

I can't say it was my favorite receiver ever, but there wasn't anything I hated about it.
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« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2011, 11:07:20 AM »

I had an 851S-1 and it was an OK receiver.  Better than the 651S-1.  Make sure you get the complement of filters, if possible, because they're some oddball IF frequency (460 KHz, or 450, or something).  The optical encoder in mine was bad; just needed one transistor replaced and it was good to go.

I can't say it was my favorite receiver ever, but there wasn't anything I hated about it.

Yeah my yaesu 1000d receiver totally blows it away lol
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« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2011, 11:08:05 AM »

Hi!

You are of course right, looking at the colour of the tube is not a reliable method.
However, my experience is that tubes that have seen many running hours often show some discolouration. To be more correct(?), they show oxidation of the surface.

Having had the time to make a quick investigation of the stuff, everything indicates that the equipment is very close to NOS. And this is in line with the information from the seller.

The thing I need now is an antenna coupler HF-8040, if anyone knows were to find one, please let me know. I know were to get an 851S-1 with preselector HF-8060, we will se what happens. Any advice? How well does the receiver perform? Receiver options to look for?  
 

Your right if you were looking at a regular store bought ham amp. But when it comes to a rf generator or a collins amp which is desined to stay on all the time and has a blower which is the right size then no you probably wont see a difference in the tube color. I have had many rf generators henry and plasma therm and when I looked at the tubes they always looked brand new. Only a few have been bad but they still looked new. Even the red writing looked sharp. Lool for dust on the hv wires. Look at the other components you cant go by what the tube looks like. I forget what that unit looks like I have never owned one. But isnt their an hour meter mounted some where. My unit has one.

It doesnt really matter how many hours are on it all that matters is that it works.Take care of it they arent easy to fix.

Get your self a complete hanger queen. Shouldnt be to hard to find those amps are pretty common. The bigger ones are rare

73s
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« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2011, 12:04:56 PM »

whats up with the pictures lol
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« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2011, 05:12:21 AM »

Hi!

Pictures of the 1 kW amplifier. Rockwell Collins HF-8020
(NO, I did not paint the walls pink, that's the way it was when we moved in...)


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« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2011, 05:17:11 AM »

And some pictures of the power supply. Rockwell Collins HF-8030


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« Reply #23 on: July 19, 2012, 02:35:21 PM »

Hi!

Update; I found a HF-8040, Antenna Coupler, or should I say, it found me.
Current location is Germany, it will start it's journey to it's new home next week!
Anyone who knows anything interesting about these couplers?
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« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2013, 11:50:42 AM »

Hi Morgan,

Did you get your HF-80 system going? How do you like the coupler? I am just about to setup my HF-80 system...took most of the day to get it out of the shop, dismount it all from the rack cabinet and get it to the house. I considered using the Bobcat to move most of it, especially the PS but I used the hand cart instead. What a beast.

So, it's all warmed up and back to 20C and ready to reconnect in my shack. I remember it was noisier than the 737 but for some reason the mic didn't pick it up in my old shack/shop. I have Sonex panels mounted in closet where it is going, right next to the Bauer broadcast TX.

My plan is to use this mainly with my TAPR HPSDR as it puts out 500mW and this HF-8020 only needs 100mW. Should be a kick butt setup.  Grin  I may bring in the 8050A RX one day, and after I hear about your experience with the coupler, I may look for one of those. When I bought my system I got all the manuals and the manual for the 8040 was there, but it was missing from the pallet of equipment. Darn!

Cheers

Paul
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