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« on: February 09, 2011, 05:59:57 PM »

After solving few problems with my card reader instalation, the photos of the "Lady in red" are here.
The new ones with reactors in place and power set over 7kw under carrier condition will be uploaded very soon.
For the main part I want thank all of you for the knowledge you provided to me through your threads.
For the difficult part I want thank Stu and Tom for the solutions and courage they armed me to walk the difficult road to high level am modulation.

The "Lady" is dancing almost every night with 82% efficiency and is waiting now the final touch-painting, knobing and wax shining...

A huge thank you
Stefano
 


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« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2011, 06:01:42 PM »

few more photos


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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2011, 06:04:26 PM »

and more


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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2011, 06:05:14 PM »

BEAUTIFUL transmitter porn Smiley


Some reason I feel like I should shower Smiley


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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2011, 06:06:27 PM »

few more


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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2011, 06:09:46 PM »

I'll post the full schematic later...


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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2011, 06:11:47 PM »

the af supporters...


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« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2011, 07:19:18 PM »

Very, very unique setup, OM!

Interesting on using a 5KW solid state audio amplifier to plate modulate the final. Where did you come across the mod transformer for those impedances?  FB on the 3-diode NPL.

Hope you don't have too many close neighbors in the 'hood... Cheesy

It will be interesting to see the schematic when you post it.  Good job.

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« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2011, 07:43:35 PM »

my 4CX3000A Afterburner


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« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2011, 07:51:19 PM »

It's coming along pretty well, Frank.  Youse gots a good headstart on the Huzman. Now for the infrastructure wiring.


I will buy an apple crisp for the first one who joins me in the DX window with their finished amplifier... Wink

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« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2011, 08:08:52 PM »

Frank where did you get that bandswitch?  I have one similar to it except mine is only one throw not three.  I think I have 8 or 9 poles on mine non-shorting.   ah, I bet you found it under a table at some hamfest  Cheesy


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« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2011, 08:10:45 PM »

I've been cutting strips of copper for the switch taps. Double 1/2 inch for each tap. common off the 4 switch commons 1 1/8 inch wide
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« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2011, 08:13:04 PM »

A few more 4CX3000 porn shots. Nice job Stefano.



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« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2011, 08:27:23 PM »

I built my switch from a bunch of parts. I just found silver button contacts for the commons. The silver plated ones worked fine for years but these are more HD. The hardest part is cutting that shaft, but my brother is a jeweler and took care of that. The front two wafers have dual contacts front and back. Learned the trick from a surplus switch from a mil rig. The rotors also have dual wipers to pick up the dual contacts. So I have 4 sets of parallel contacts to select coil taps. The third wafer is for padder caps on the loading cap. Loading cap is only 1400 pf so need more on 80M and 160 if I add some more L. 
Input circuit is a pi with 1000 pf variable at input and 2000 pf variable at the tube. L is a 10 uh variable inductor.
This rig was on the air with bread slicers but couldn't hack it.
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« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2011, 08:34:37 PM »

WOW.  Talk about heavy artilary coming out.

Mike - quick comment. In picture one it looks like the copper tubing coil is using the vac variable as a main support. The glass/ seal can't take a lot of stress and strain before cracking. I've seen some vacs go that way. Consider using a pillar there with a more flexible copper strap jumper to the vac cap.

If I  am seeing the pic incorrectly, then never mind!  Wink

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« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2011, 08:45:02 PM »

Thanks for the advice Tom. I'll get a post in the network next week. Hope we didn't hijack Stefano's thread.

Mike
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« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2011, 09:11:59 PM »

Outstanding work, Stefano!  I take it you're using it on MF?
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« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2011, 09:20:56 PM »

Yes, Stefano very nice job. 7 KV, wow!
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« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2011, 10:39:51 PM »

Always a pleasure to look at those kind of equipments!
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« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2011, 04:18:37 AM »

Thank you guys for the positive comments,

As you can see the system is just on the end of the experiments road and now I will start the final definition.
All wirings inside will take the clearest way, the aluminums will come out and have the proper painting and the knobs will be changed to the same style.
The amp is working with 5kv full load plate voltage at 1.4A-1.6A, -150v fixed bias to grounded (not in series) 5.4k leak resistor at 70-90ma, 0-700v screen voltage at 140-180ma (overcurrent protector takes screen voltage away if more than 200ma).
Input is a linked parallel sircuit and output is a pi with 0-450pf/32kv vac cap, 24uh/60A and 0-2300pf/5kv vac cap.
The amp works even easier than the exciter does, no surprises at all, very stable and secure.

Frank, mine was easy because of one band use. Am very jealous of your band switch.

Opcom, learnt a lot from you,too.

Mike, very good job for low band, too.

w3jn, yes it is for mf 1.5-1.7 mhz.

Shane, hard core is coming soon, be patient.

Tom, the mod trans is a 120v/65A rms pri to 0-3500-4000-5000v/1.5A rms sec, insulated for 15kv. The Rmod= 5000v/1.4A=3571ohm so a 30:1 voltage/turns ratio will transform the Rmod to 4ohms, 30x30x4ohm=3600ohm.
I use the 0-3500v sec for the rf side and the 120v pri for the 4ohm bridged solid state output in mod heising with one leg of mod transformer sec grounded.
The af amp is an H class with 2 huge toroid transformers (60lb) for highest efficiency and less than 0.1% distortion. The sound is amazingly clear, the frequency response almost perfect from 40hz-7khz and the mod transf is singing like a good midrange megaphone.
Now I'm thinking to interupt a 4700uf/450v cap between solid state out and mod transf pri for keeping out any dc or strange feedback from the sensitive solid state amp. Any thoughts about that are welcome.

Stefano


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« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2011, 05:49:06 AM »

A few more 4CX3000 porn shots. Nice job Stefano.



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« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2011, 05:50:09 AM »

I'll post the full schematic later...

Hey might as well go to 600V on the screen and be THE channel master
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« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2011, 10:26:20 AM »

Frank where did you get that bandswitch?  I have one similar to it except mine is only one throw not three.  I think I have 8 or 9 poles on mine non-shorting.  

I built the 5-gang ceramic-wafer selector switch for my antenna tuner array out of 4 or 5 of those switches, although it looks like mine may be the next size larger.  I re-stacked wafers and ceramic spacers, and connected two shafts together using an Oldham coupler since I couldn't get them to stay lined up perfectly over a full rotation.

Mine are each 10 position, non-shorting.  I soldered the wire directly to the tabs, using a big-ass soldering iron.  The wire is #8 stranded.  I stripped about 1" of insulation at the ends of the wires, fanned out the strands and flattened the bundle with pliers, attached the wire to the tabs by tightly wrapping some small gauge "copper zirconium" wire over the end of the wire and the tab to hold everything firmly in place, and then generously applied solder until the connection was well saturated.



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« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2011, 11:24:44 AM »

Don, beautiful job; yes your switch is exactly like the one I have except as I mentioned earlier, mine is one wafer (does one use "wafer" to refer to these things?); I got mine by getting to a hamfest last Sept. at 6 a.m. and they were out on a table $2 each.  I got both of them with indexes.   I apologize for getting off into ceramic switches but I do not see these often and they go for obscene prices at $urplu$ $ale$.

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« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2011, 11:37:13 AM »

Hello Stefano, what country are you located in and is that transmitter made for the broadcast band in your country?

Who manufactured the modulation  transformer for you?

Perhaps some of these questions have already been asked and answered, but I'm old and ask questions more than once Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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