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Steve - WB3HUZ
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« on: March 31, 2010, 01:37:45 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEVM741RL2E&feature=related


Old buzzarding in Portugese!


You can see the transmitter on the other end at the link below.

http://www.amwindow.org/pix/htm/py2hcd/py2hcd1.htm
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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2010, 01:48:48 PM »

That's nice!!! The nice audio is catching on all over the whirl.

I see the Pilipines represented here.....anyone ever see any postings??

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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2010, 04:11:43 PM »

That's nice!!! The nice audio is catching on all over the whirl.

I see the Pilipines represented here.....anyone ever see any postings??

Fred

Looks like most of the HF phone operating is 2 KHz or less. Some "Wideband" indicators on upper end of 10 meters and 6 meters.
http://www.para.org.ph/r3bandplans.html
Main Page: http://www.para.org.ph/main.htm
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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2010, 04:51:20 PM »

Thanks Pete,
I am a "lifetime" member of PARA. Had to do it to get a reciprocal license. BUT $40 total for Lifetime and the NTC processing my DU7 license. Not too shaby.
I'm sure in the phone bands that A.M. would fly................or are they "recommending" restricting to 2khz wide emissions? I'll look at the emission designators on my license.
The activity on their website might be a response to a topic to one a week. Almost dead.
Seems like most activity is 2M and 6M.

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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2010, 09:38:57 PM »

That's nice!!! The nice audio is catching on all over the whirl.

I see the Pilipines represented here.....anyone ever see any postings??

Fred

Looks like most of the HF phone operating is 2 KHz or less. Some "Wideband" indicators on upper end of 10 meters and 6 meters.
http://www.para.org.ph/r3bandplans.html
Main Page: http://www.para.org.ph/main.htm

But that's just the IARU Region 3 band plan. That is not the same thing as the Philippine national amateur radio regulations.  According to the Region 2 band plan, we, here in the US, are not allowed to use AM on 160m.  Even the ARRL says that the band plans are nothing more than suggestions.
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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2010, 10:55:16 PM »

That's nice!!! The nice audio is catching on all over the whirl.

I see the Pilipines represented here.....anyone ever see any postings??

Fred

Looks like most of the HF phone operating is 2 KHz or less. Some "Wideband" indicators on upper end of 10 meters and 6 meters.
http://www.para.org.ph/r3bandplans.html
Main Page: http://www.para.org.ph/main.htm

But that's just the IARU Region 3 band plan. That is not the same thing as the Philippine national amateur radio regulations.  According to the Region 2 band plan, we, here in the US, are not allowed to use AM on 160m.  Even the ARRL says that the band plans are nothing more than suggestions.

I just pointed to what PARA has posted on their web site. Here are their frequency allocations by license class. Also, provides some info on specific modes: http://www.para.org.ph/classallocations.htm
On their main page, you can also click on "Licensing" for additional info.

Don said:  "According to the Region 2 band plan, we, here in the US, are not allowed to use AM on 160m."
Send your comments to the ARRL. They are requesting info relative to Region 2 Band plan changes/updates. See: http://amfone.net/Amforum/index.php?topic=23310.0
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« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2010, 12:13:45 PM »

It looks like in the Philippines, the only modes allowed on some bands is CW and SSB.  I wonder if they actually enforce a ban on AM, or if that was merely an oversight by someone who just assumed that "phone" was synonymous with "ssb". I often see and hear  references to the "ssb portion" of the US bands here, both over the air and in publications. Are those charts verbatim from the text of the regulations, or is this a band chart published by PARA, based on their interpretation of the regulations?

Philippine hams must be aware that there is an "AM" button on most of their riceboxes.
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« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2010, 02:07:35 PM »

If you poke around various countries in Regions 1, 2, and 3, and review some of their amateur regulations, licensing, etc., not all have embraced the "re-coming" or "resurrection" of the AM mode in mainstream amateur radio activities.
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« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2010, 02:19:35 PM »

So, what specific countries have actually outlawed AM?
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« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2010, 02:34:10 PM »

So, what specific countries have actually outlawed AM?

Who said "outlaw" ? We went through this discussion back when we had the IARU band plan changes several years ago.  Bermuda and Aruba (or one of those Caribbean countries) comes to mind from that past discussion. Go to the Region 1, 2, and 3 web sites, click on the member countries, and look to see which ones have web sites. From there, you can poke around to see if they detail their specific licensing, mode, bandwidth, and regulation details.
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« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2010, 04:14:48 PM »

At 2 kHz or less, SSB voice would be outlawed too.   Shocked
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« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2010, 04:30:24 PM »

At 2 kHz or less, SSB voice would be outlawed too.   Shocked

I ran 1.8 kHz during last weekend's WPX contest. "Quality" audio isn't a requirement for contesting.
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« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2010, 04:42:53 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2010, 10:44:14 AM »


To paraphrase Pete:
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"Quality" isn't a requirement for contesting.
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« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2010, 11:10:12 AM »

<<"Quality" audio isn't a requirement for contesting.>>

I think the right way to  put it is, "Quality" audio is a disqualifier for contesting.
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« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2010, 01:32:15 PM »

WHELP it's too bad that shipping some of my ham stuff won't allow me to send the AL811 linear coz my recip says I can use 2KW P.E.P. I could give A.M. a try with some scrote. I'll try some of the upper bands using 25 watts and see if there are any frequency police around.
I guess isn some countries the Hams take the "suggestions" as The Law

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« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2010, 04:29:17 PM »

You pushed a button on your rig that said 1.8 kHz. The actual bandwidth of your tranmissions were greater than 1.8 kHz.

At 2 kHz or less, SSB voice would be outlawed too.   Shocked

I ran 1.8 kHz during last weekend's WPX contest. "Quality" audio isn't a requirement for contesting.
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« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2010, 06:03:17 PM »

You pushed a button on your rig that said 1.8 kHz. The actual bandwidth of your tranmissions were greater than 1.8 kHz.

At 2 kHz or less, SSB voice would be outlawed too.   Shocked

I ran 1.8 kHz during last weekend's WPX contest. "Quality" audio isn't a requirement for contesting.

I used a mouse and clicked an icon.  Cool
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