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K9ACT
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« on: April 21, 2009, 12:42:50 AM »

I have a Heathkit 2040 antenna tuner and suddenly got the bug to operate on the 160 M band.

I modified my 810 rig to do 160 at about 225 W carrier but can't get beyond the dummy load because the 2040 does not cover 160.  It seems intuitive that adding more L and/or a padding cap or two would be rather simple to implement.

Unfortunately, I do not know enough about tuners to come up with the numbers and what goes where to do this.

Anyone care to help me here?  Has this been done before?

js


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« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2009, 09:49:00 AM »

Double L and double C is the rule of thumb.    You might be better off building a new tuner for just 160M.    Check out the K1JJ tuner on this forum, not sure where it is, do a search.
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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2009, 10:08:13 AM »

What kind of antenna and feedline? Two capacitors, two inductors, and two hours of time will get you a great tuner for open wire line to a dipole. I can send you a photo of the one I built. It will tune both 160 and 75 meters. The circuit can be found in any of the 1950's ARRL handbooks.

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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2009, 10:48:46 AM »

Jack,

I use a homebrew reversible L tuner here.  Basically a roller inductor out of a Gates broadcast transmitter and a 1,500 pf vacuum variable coupled with a switch selected 500 pf padder.  I use one "tap" switch from a BC-375 (available cheap from Fair) to switch in the additional padder as needed and another tap switch to choose on which side of the inductor the capacitor is used.

The L is basically a low pass filter which never hurts with vintage gear.  I have used it on 80 through 10 with the Desk KW and other gear and on 160 with a Drake 7 line including the L-7 amp.  I built an identical one for the "DX and contest" position in the barn and that one has been used on all bands at the full legal limit without issue.

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« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2009, 11:43:30 PM »

Mine seems to have enough L, but not enough C. The padder is a good dea.
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K9ACT
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« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2009, 12:53:13 AM »

I took someone's advice and dug into a 1973 Handbook and found the solution in my junk box.

Connecting together the shack ends of the feed line from my 80 meter dipole turns it into a top-loaded vertical.

All that is required to match this to the transmitter is about 500 pf of capacitance.  I used a 1000 pF loading cap and an SWR bridge and got 1:1 with about 500 pF.

Works fine but I will be putting down some radials as soon as the wire arrives.

It may be a compromise antenna but it gets me on the band.

Thanks for the suggestions,

js 
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