Uproar in Australia over plan to block Web sites

[k4kyv]

A proposed Internet filter dubbed the "Great Aussie Firewall" is promising to make Australia one of the strictest Internet regulators among democratic countries.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i3agqiMrtVoJZzcaRDg2795uSLAAD95AGJQO0

[ka3zlr]

"Ve have Laws about the sort of material that is acceptable across all mediums and the internet is no different"... mien fuhrer...

What the hell, they control the media...why shud the internet be any different...it's media...

[N8LGU]

What the hell, they control the media...why shud the internet be any different...it's media...
           ...because next it will be the books in your bookshelf.

[k4kyv]

But they're doing it "for the children".

[KL7OF]

They have gun control as well.......some democracy

[k4kyv]

All the  more reason to keep BPL and other digital rubbish from trashing shortwave.

[ka3zlr]

Welp,.. if'n an Aussie shows up at my door looken for my books...I'll just never be the same...I guess...

On the other hand,, the Canadians look at the U.S. an Laugh...'everything is run by lawyers'...Pick a Country...

Blocking web sites..Great, get-r-done....Show some fortitude,,..

[W3SLK]

Dave said:

because next it will be the books in your bookshelf.

Anyone got a copy of "Fahrenheit 451" laying around?

[K1ZJH]

If the FCC gets involved, watch out!! 

They are talking about regulating satellite radio since Stern is out of their reach, for now..

[ka3zlr]

Yahvoul Riechminister, der books ?...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi5Ze76-D0Q&feature=related

[W7XXX]

It's Kevin Bloody Wilsons fault!

[W1ATR]

The Aussie's just have to let the Free Mason's run they're country like we do. That way everything would be hunky dory. Or at least we think it's all hunky dory, isn't it?

Now where did I leave my tinfoil hat?

[Ed/KB1HYS]

because knowledge is power, and ignorance makes you easy to rule.

Control what the people see, control what the people hear, and you can control what the people think...

All news media outlets have known this since the first town crier...

all that concern over hightech brainbusting devices is unneeded.  the device is your TV, radio, computer or what ever other means you have of getting information.

All news media outlets have known this since the first town crier... 

Since the internet allows people to communicate freely, and to get raw news (or highly filtered news, caviat Emptor) it is a threat to the News boys.

Since it allows people to freely exchange information it is a threat to all ruling bodies. (Yes Virginia, even ours).

All in the name of the common good. What better reason...

Have you seen a book burning lately??  When the "People" burn books in the streets go and buy as much ammo as you can...

It just means that once again, some time in the (maybe) near future, the People will have to throw off the yoke of oppression.

Read any of these lately???
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banned_books

Maybe sometime we will learn to keep it off, instead of becoming fat and lazy...

[Ian VK3KRI]

They have gun control as well.......some democracy

What does gun control got to do with democracy?  I'm not having a go here , but this is something I constantly hear from US citizens. It seems that the most 'sacred' right accorded is that allowing to carry a gun around.

From my point of view, I don't feel oppressed because I can't keep a handgun in the house.  Am I missing something?

                                                               Ian VK3KRI

 

[Steve - WB3HUZ]

In short, all other rights are subject to being taken away if the citizenry cannot stop the government from doing so. Thus, weapons.

[ka3zlr]

And the action point is...Time...In Time...all in good time...

In hand follows the control point.. Emotions.....fall on the most basic..

I still say after all these years, the biggest mistake that was allowed to happen in history was the burning of the library at Alexandria...and that's just one time that happened...

Control the knowledge, control the history, control the people...for what....

[W7XXX]

I still say after all these years, the biggest mistake that was allowed to happen in history was the burning of the library at Alexandria...and that's just one time that happened...

Exactly! The knowledge stored at Alexandria was contrary to the controlling religion.

[k4kyv]

I still say after all these years, the biggest mistake that was allowed to happen in history was the burning of the library at Alexandria...and that's just one time that happened... 

A close runner-up occurred more recently - the looting of the Baghdad museum, stripping it of a priceless collection of cultural artifacts dating back to the dawn of civilization.

"Coalition" forces just stood by and watched without intervening, shortly after the fall of Saddam. 

But they wasted no time protecting the oil ministry, which remained one of the few untouched buildings in ravaged Baghdad, because it was immediately placed under round-the-clock surveillance by the troops.

[W7XXX]

Back to the original topic, I think using filters to censor the sites they mention, would prove futile. The people that run these sites are in some cases smarter than the ones that try to block them. Even if they were effective, who has the say on what constitutes what is to be filtered? Certainly offending politics and religion would be targets, and also controversial medicine and other science would mysteriously disappear.

[k4kyv]

But still, it would cut the sites off from most of the public.  Only a few knowledgeable computer geeks would be capable of defeating the filters.

We had a porn filter on the computer system at work when I used to teach school.  About 30% of the pages you tried to visit would be blocked as "unacceptable content".

Once, after hours, I tried to look up some data about radio antennas on an engineering site, but the damned porn filter blocked it.  When I got home I checked out the site, and there was absolutely nothing there unrelated to radio engineering.

Needless to say, it was virtually impossible to use anything like an online foreign language dictionary, a large percentage of sites with world history content, or most sites with videos.  The filter left the internet on school computers almost totally worthless.

[W4EWH]

They have gun control as well.......some democracy

What does gun control got to do with democracy?  I'm not having a go here , but this is something I constantly hear from US citizens. It seems that the most 'sacred' right accorded is that allowing to carry a gun around.
 

It may be sacred, but it's not a right: the U.S. Supreme Court ruled years ago that the "right of the people to keep and bear arms" applies only to "A well regulated militia". U.S. Citizens who desire to purchase firearms across state lines have to obtain a permit from the government to do so.

Some states allow the purchase and/or carrying of weapons without permits, but it's not a "right" that can never be taken away by the government.

My 2¢.

73,

Bill W1AC

[K1ZJH]

They have gun control as well.......some democracy

What does gun control got to do with democracy?  I'm not having a go here , but this is something I constantly hear from US citizens. It seems that the most 'sacred' right accorded is that allowing to carry a gun around.

From my point of view, I don't feel oppressed because I can't keep a handgun in the house.  Am I missing something?

                                                               Ian VK3KRI

 

A Constitution and a Bill of Rights?  We have rights that are protected by our
Constitution. The right to own and bear arms is one of them. When one
falls, the others will follow.

[KL7OF]

It may be sacred, but it's not a right: the U.S. Supreme Court ruled years ago that the "right of the people to keep and bear arms" applies only to "A well regulated militia". U.S. Citizens who desire to purchase firearms across state lines have to obtain a permit from the government to do so.




Bill W1AC
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Did not the supreme court rule that it is an INDIVIDUAL right to bear arms???  It is not just the militia
Steve...

[Tom WA3KLR]

May be, remember you are referring to the federal constitution.   People forget that this is not just one normal country but is 50 united states.

I am a citizen of the sovereign Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.  We have our own state constitution which cleary states in Article 1 Section 21 Right to Bear Arms "The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State shall not be questioned." (PERIOD)

I wish that the federal constitution was worded this way.

On this basis anyone applying for a concealed carry permit in Pennsylvania and fills in the "Reason" block with "self-defense" is entitiled to it unless the county sheriff can come up with proof to deny the permit.

[W3NP]

I am a citizen of the State of West Virginia - I betcha probably knew how WV would rule on this issue!!

 Article III-22 of the West Virginia State Constitution states "A person has the right to keep and bear arms for the defense of self, family, home and state, and for lawful hunting and recreational use."