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« on: September 09, 2008, 10:22:29 AM »

Seems like the no traffic nets are always on the high end of 40M.    Every fall 7290 seems to be a no-op for AM'ers with every hurricane threat.    I propose that 7200 be used as an alternate AM frequency.    This has been used in the past in W. Pa. when the band propagation was not as long.    Now that all phone license classes can use 7200 why not go there whenever the emergency folks claim 7290.
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« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2008, 10:28:39 AM »

Some of us have already utilized other 40m frequencies down below 7200. I worked W3GL and another station down there recently. We just don't post our intentions for the problem children to use as a road map, instead we have faith that our AM brethren still know how to spin the VFO and call CQ. Wink

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« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2008, 01:33:01 PM »

At times I've had QSO's on 7.160 without running into sidebander issues.
Have even had folks using plastic radios check in to see what the AM position on the mode switch did.  I know at least a couple who a regular AM'ers now. Grin
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« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2008, 02:03:00 PM »

I'll have to start looking over the whole band when listening on 40.   I never think to look anywhere else other than at the top end for AM.    Just as K4KYV sez on the other post, start checking downunder.    I wasn't proposing a ghetto frequency on 7200, just another place to start listening.
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« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2008, 04:13:26 PM »

It'll be good to have more folks in more places. A far cry from the day when AMers were trying to squeeze into the 3870-3890 keyhole. The more we use other frequencies, the more folks realize that AM really is 'just another mode' and the more newcomers we attract. You hear SSB everywhere, why not AM too?

Hope to work you on 40 sometime, Robert - maybe 80m too?

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« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2008, 10:30:05 PM »

Seems like the no traffic nets are always on the high end of 40M.    Every fall 7290 seems to be a no-op for AM'ers with every hurricane threat.    I propose that 7200 be used as an alternate AM frequency.    This has been used in the past in W. Pa. when the band propagation was not as long.    Now that all phone license classes can use 7200 why not go there whenever the emergency folks claim 7290.


My suggestion would be to start operating around 7190 because:

a) Most europeans can now operate phone up to 7200
b) The broadcasters are scheduled to vacate 7100-7200 in 2009
C) 7190 is easy to remember


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« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2008, 10:39:49 PM »

5) 7190/3885 is 1.85070785071 - even easier to remember!
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« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2008, 11:27:16 PM »

Back in the late 70's, & on through the 80's we used 7160 +/-. I still have the xtals. There is a military equipment net that uses 7165 and we might want to make sure to leave them some breathing room. My opinion is the lower the better. I am ready to slide the 21E up to 40M so let the propagation begin!!
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« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2008, 07:15:54 AM »

hey Steve ...
5) 7190/3885 is 1.85070785071 - even easier to remember!

ah yes .... the captain requires exact information ... 73 ...beefus
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« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2008, 07:26:39 AM »

My alternate frequency 7212.5khz +/- 87.5khz.
See ya there Grin
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« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2008, 10:07:27 AM »

So,many decisions....

Just when I get tooled up for 20, the talk reverts to 40.

First of all, I do not understand the hideound attitude of beating the head against the 7290 wall.  I was not even aware of the hurricane bit which seems like the real nail in the coffin.

Just what is the point of demanding a presence on 7290?  It's seems a lot like the "dead air, we were here first" attitude we so much deplore in bucketeers.

If that's not enough, from my QTH, there is a foreign BCST station right on 7290 for much of the late evening.

I just gave up on the whole band and went to 20 a month or so ago and in spite of the propagation problems at night, I have had far more quality QSO's on 20 than I ever had on 40 and there is zero interference from anyone.

I can be talked back into 40 but if it's only howling at the moon, I prefer 20.

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« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2008, 10:13:05 AM »

It's not one or the other. That's why we have 8 HF bands, 9 if you count the 5 MHz channels.


So,many decisions....

Just when I get tooled up for 20, the talk reverts to 40.

First of all, I do not understand the hideound attitude of beating the head against the 7290 wall.  I was not even aware of the hurricane bit which seems like the real nail in the coffin.

Just what is the point of demanding a presence on 7290?  It's seems a lot like the "dead air, we were here first" attitude we so much deplore in bucketeers.

If that's not enough, from my QTH, there is a foreign BCST station right on 7290 for much of the late evening.

I just gave up on the whole band and went to 20 a month or so ago and in spite of the propagation problems at night, I have had far more quality QSO's on 20 than I ever had on 40 and there is zero interference from anyone.

I can be talked back into 40 but if it's only howling at the moon, I prefer 20.

js


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« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2008, 04:11:21 PM »

Can't run AM on 5 MHz unless you subtract the lower sideband and carrier.
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« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2008, 04:28:51 PM »

My suggestion would be to start operating around 7190 because:

a) Most europeans can now operate phone up to 7200
b) The broadcasters are scheduled to vacate 7100-7200 in 2009
C) 7190 is easy to remember


Sam / KS2AM


Good idea Sam!
Your all welcome in Europa!

On 7290 very strong Russian Radio SW station in AM.
So never possible to hear USA AM...

Greetings,

PE1MPH Wink
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« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2008, 07:34:52 PM »

40 meter AM qrg's...

I personally like to hang in the area of 7150/90...  I find that area clear a lot of the time and have been calling "seekingyou" a lot...

So far I've worked a number of stations in the area including KA1KAQ and
some that have answered on LSB but pushed the AM switch on their
plastic radios...

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« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2008, 11:56:38 AM »

I have gotten on 40 M during the day time in the afternoon from time to time. Fire up on 7290 which was clear. I bellowed out CQ after CQ.
My calls were unanswered. I spent about a half hour calling to no avail. I knew the band was not broken. My daytime radio time is limited with all I have to do before Winter hits. I will be busy up until the snow flies. If 40 is to be used during the  evening hours one must research what frequencies are open . Shortwave broadcashers change their schedules usually around the Spring and Fall equinoxes.Research done to find some clear frequencies may be for nought  at this time of year but, you never know. Usually a frequency that is clear may be so for an hour or so. The thing to do is to tail-end a shortwave broadcasher that has just signed off. Nail down the frequency before some slopbucketeer discovers it too. To do proper research one must tune the 40 meter fone band (7125-7300) every 5Khz every hour and make note of which frequencies are usable. If a number of people from the East West,and South pool their information ,it may be possible to make good use of the band. Perhaps I will try to get on from time to time in the evenings.Who knows see you there,
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« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2008, 01:34:10 AM »


My suggestion would be to start operating around 7190 because:

a) Most europeans can now operate phone up to 7200
b) The broadcasters are scheduled to vacate 7100-7200 in 2009
C) 7190 is easy to remember


Sam / KS2AM

Just be careful of 7188.  There is an Emergency and county hunters net in operation there for at least 11 hours of every day according to the website at http://208.178.228.13/ch/freq.htm. Many times I listen, don't hear anything, but ask if the frequency is in use and someone comes back and says it is being used  by the Emergency and County Hunters net. Must be a lot of strange propagation on 40 meters nowadays.
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« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2008, 01:49:53 AM »

Sounds like another dead-air group or no-traffic net to me.
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« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2008, 10:44:59 AM »

 " There is an Emergency and county hunters net in operation. "

So, all we havta do is  'give out' our county?

 " There ain't a slop-bucket in North America Ashtabula County that can bother me. "

"  I've run out of gas in Onondaga County, anyone  hear this piss weak moblie? "

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« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2008, 11:24:44 AM »

Oh all calm down !

Just sign up and join Tron's new "jump team" network up in Maine and you'll be all set !  Buddly, please call in on 14.275 , make your donation imediately, and start your own "jump team" !!  Maybe the Huzman and JN will team up with you !!

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« Reply #20 on: September 12, 2008, 02:01:22 PM »

Hi FOF,

How about I call in on 7137.5 and you listen for my strapping harmonic!
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« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2008, 02:50:12 PM »

Ola all...

After 30 minutes calling CQ between 7130 to 7195 with no luck, I moved up to the General freq of 7205 this afternoon and hooked Terry, W2PFY on cross mode LSB for a 20 minute QSO...

The band was more or less open as there were quite a few big SSB signals in there but NO amateur AM to be seen anywhere from 7125 to 7300!

Where are you daylight operators hanging out?

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