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« Reply #25 on: November 07, 2007, 10:26:44 AM »

And then there's the fact that Stalin also declared war on Japan just before their surrender!?

Yep, some say his late entry was retaliation for the delays by the Allies in opening the Second Front in Europe. More accurately, his desire to grab some territory before the war ended, like total control of Sakhalin Island which Russia had shared with Japan for many years.

Keep in mind that the Japanese were supposedly trying to work out a peace treaty through the Soviets, or so the story goes. Either way, it was a typical 'Uncle Joe' move.

 
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« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2007, 12:51:34 PM »

Nah. The were both pure evil. Stalin was just a little more lucky and a lot more evil, so he survived longer.

And then there's the fact that Stalin also declared war on Japan just before their surrender!?

Yep, some say his late entry was retaliation for the delays by the Allies in opening the Second Front in Europe. More accurately, his desire to grab some territory before the war ended, like total control of Sakhalin Island which Russia had shared with Japan for many years.

Keep in mind that the Japanese were supposedly trying to work out a peace treaty through the Soviets, or so the story goes. Either way, it was a typical 'Uncle Joe' move.

 

Adolph Hitler is easy to understand, he was just plain old crazy. Joseph Stalin was not crazy at all, just pure evil incarnate.

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« Reply #27 on: November 07, 2007, 01:50:51 PM »

Stalin was smart enough to stay home with his evil little mind where the other nut wanted to rule the world. USSR was big enough for Stalin but the bastart wiped out most of my Mother's extended family....since her GF was in the Czar's army 
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« Reply #28 on: November 07, 2007, 02:46:01 PM »

Yes and no. He formed a pact with Hitler to divide Poland (so no, he didn't stay at home). The purges at home, especially in the military, almost allowed Hitler to win, when he broke the pact, and attacked the Sovs. Further, Stalin invaded Finland, before WWII. I won't even go into the occupation of numerous eastern European countries after WWII.


Stalin was smart enough to stay home with his evil little mind where the other nut wanted to rule the world. USSR was big enough for Stalin but the bastart wiped out most of my Mother's extended family....since her GF was in the Czar's army 
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« Reply #29 on: November 07, 2007, 03:18:18 PM »

Steve, I meant after WW2...during the war he was smart enough to stick with the winner as the winds shifted.....since his pal decided to invade to the East and have all four directions covered at the same time......
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« Reply #30 on: November 08, 2007, 08:56:51 AM »

For sure. He was a crafty SOB. Without the aid of the US and Britain, the USSR may have crumbled in that period.
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« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2007, 10:08:29 AM »

my GM was a jolly old Russian but she hated Stalin and all the other commies. I was sitting in her living room when the shoe banger did his thing. I thought she was going to explode....
But then Stalin wiped out her whole family and when they wrote for money it was never received.
Putin another good ole commie
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« Reply #32 on: November 08, 2007, 11:17:21 AM »

For sure. He was a crafty SOB. Without the aid of the US and Britain, the USSR may have crumbled in that period.

Particularly when you consider that Heydrich's little forgery tweak job helped convince Stalin that his generals and others were out to get him, resulting in the great purge of the Red Army in the late 30s. That cost ol' Joe a lot of talent and experience, not something gained back in a few months. Talk about pushing buttons.
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« Reply #33 on: November 12, 2007, 10:38:34 PM »

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Particularly when you consider that Heydrich's little forgery tweak job helped convince Stalin that his generals and others were out to get him, resulting in the great purge of the Red Army in the late 30s. That cost ol' Joe a lot of talent and experience, not something gained back in a few months. Talk about pushing buttons.


Even this may not be what it seems. There is some evidence that Stalin had planned the purge before Heydrich passed the false dossier. And Heydrich's contact, a former White Russian general, Nilolai Skoblin, turned out to be a double agent for the NKVD.
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« Reply #34 on: November 13, 2007, 08:11:12 AM »

The shame of it all is that WW2 was really only the first battle!! The Japs really ended up winning "the war" many years later. They used a weapon much more powerful than the atomic bomb.......Money!!
They have bought enough of this country to now have control over it!!

Just think about it when you get into your Toyota for the ride home and fire up your Yeacomwood rice box radio!! Cry Cry

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« Reply #35 on: November 13, 2007, 10:32:27 AM »

Even this may not be what it seems. There is some evidence that Stalin had planned the purge before Heydrich passed the false dossier. And Heydrich's contact, a former White Russian general, Nilolai Skoblin, turned out to be a double agent for the NKVD.

The previously-accepted version was that the purge was a direct result of Heydrich's activities, not the case as more documentation was released in recent years. His part, though much smaller than originally represented, no doubt helped to 'sell' uncle Joe on the idea that everyone was out to get him.

Not that Stalin needed any help believing such things, before or after.   

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