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« on: November 28, 2011, 02:44:25 PM »

Anyone have any experience using a USB sillyscope such as this one

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-2-Channel-PC-Computer-Digital-mini-USB-Oscilloscope-/110764372999?pt=BI_Oscilloscopes&hash=item19ca123407#ht_3407wt_922

 Just interested in measuring modulation wave form and the simplest of tasks.
The price is sure right.
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« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2011, 04:08:10 PM »


Hi,

Looking at the device spec., it only measures audio to 8kc.   Not too much good
for anything other than that...

Doubt if it will see the IF of a receiver or the carrier of a 160 meter xmitter...
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« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2011, 04:31:19 PM »

I like the specs.....



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« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2011, 04:42:51 PM »

With these types of oscilloscopes... the maximum bandwidth of a waveform you can accurately capture/display is typically 1/10th of the sampling frequency (not-withstanding Nyquist's theorem).

With two channels active, the sampling rate is specified as 4000 samples per second.

Therefore, this oscilloscope is probably not useful for even the most modest audio applications.

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« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2011, 05:29:52 PM »

Well I guess I should have read the fine print on these things. Sounded a little too good to be true. Doesn't seem like they are very useful for anything.
So I will scrap that idea and look for another solution to my needs. I need an oscilliscope ,and there are lots of great deals out there but the postage on these things is not cheap to the Northwest Territories. I am sure I will find the right one soon.

  Thanks guys.
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« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2011, 07:13:47 PM »

Any 'festers your way before the winter starts?Huh OR is it already below 0 C??

Buy from eBay and ship???
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« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2011, 07:29:54 PM »


Hi,

Looking at the device spec., it only measures audio to 8kc.   Not too much good
for anything other than that...

Doubt if it will see the IF of a receiver or the carrier of a 160 meter xmitter...



I find this Soundcard Oscilloscope to be be very useful:

http://www.zeitnitz.de/Christian/scope_en

It will do audio tasks well and even includes a versatile spectrum analyzer and signal generator. Not wideband enough for IF use, though I find it still tells me a _lot_ about received signals. I pipe the line output of my Racal into it.

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Kevin.
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« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2011, 10:27:08 PM »

Thanks Kevin ,though it may not do all I want it will be fun to play with . Like you say it would be very interesting to see received signals . I am downloading it as I type.
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« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2011, 10:28:32 PM »

Most digital scopes are terrible for viewing mixed-signal analog waveforms such as an AM-modulated wave.  

Hit a hamfest and look for a Tek 465 or 7000 series scope.  The 7000 series scopes can be had for under $50 with plug-ins and are absolutely top-notch; the last one I bought was $40 with 8 plugins including the rare 7CT1 curve tracer.  At my Maryland QTH I use a 7000 with one trace viewing the receiver IF and the other trace viewing the xmit RF.

And the big bonus of these scopes is they're extremely useful for troubleshooting equipment (as was their intended purpose).
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« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2011, 11:34:40 PM »

Yes I sure need to get to a hamfest or at least a ham auction/flea market. There are only 2 active hams in my town and a total of 5 including the non active ones. So pickings are slim

EBAY has literally thousands of the things but shipping is insane to get them to here from most locations . There is NO UPS or fed-ex here. This is the sub arctic Cry . No doubt as in all good things they are worth waiting for but it is hard sometimes .
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« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2011, 10:49:39 AM »

Condx very bad now?? Can you make an eBay purchase and have it sent where it is easy delivery and you make the trip for final pickup? Any body or any company willing to HOLD the package for you, while you drive to pickup??

Fred.............I agree with the others on "computer / USB 'scopes" YUK!!!
You can get a real one pretty cheap.
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« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2011, 11:04:40 AM »

We have to do that fairly often . Order something then go and pick it up on our yearly trip south. The nearest Major city where shipping would be cheaper is Edmonton 800km to the south. I try not to go there too often ,the big city is a scary evil place full of strange people that lead strange lives Wink . But rest assured when next I brave the dragons there will be a sillyscope waiting for yours truly.
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« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2011, 12:28:44 PM »

They make higher bandwidth scopes that work for USB.  You have to pay alot more money though.

This one includes a small screen. Might be neat.  Says 72mhz

http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-channel-Portable-Digital-2MB-USB-Disk-Storage-Oscilloscope-DSO203-ARM-DSO-NEW-/260894476529?pt=BI_Oscilloscopes&hash=item3cbe85c8f1


Or this one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DSO-5200A-200MHz-PC-USB-Digital-Oscilloscope-VISTA-/280772428244?pt=BI_Oscilloscopes&hash=item415f5741d4
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