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Was looking through recent music CD releases the other day and came across this gem- John Mellenkamp's "No Better Than This" released last August....Always have been a Mellenkamp fan and when I saw that this one was produced by T Bone Burnett, I was sold. And I wasn't disappointed. All tracks were recorded on a 1955 Ampex 601 in mono, using either a single RCA 77DX or RCA 44 at either Sun Studios in Memphis, Room 414 of the Gunter Hotel in San Antonio (where Robert Johnson recorded), or at the First African Baptist Church in Savannah. Wonder what amps and guitars were used - lots of 50s style reverb on many tracks.
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« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2011, 11:10:44 AM » |
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That's a good gear list. The complete opposite of Phil Spector's "Wall of Sound".
Mono music never hurt anybody.
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« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2011, 08:15:22 PM » |
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That's a good gear list. The complete opposite of Phil Spector's "Wall of Sound".
Mono music never hurt anybody.
Phil Spector hates stereo. All of his classic hits were originally mixed and released in mono. Darrell, WA5VGO |
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« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2011, 10:59:30 PM » |
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one of the reasons for the wall of sound was to make a recording that sounded very good when played through an am radio.
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« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2011, 02:38:56 AM » |
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A big part of Spector's sound was in using multiple instruments such as recording two or three basses being played in unison, same with guitars and horns, he got the big wall of sound at least in part that way.
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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2011, 07:02:21 AM » |
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That's a good gear list. The complete opposite of Phil Spector's "Wall of Sound".
Mono music never hurt anybody.
73DG
Definitely True!!!!! There are folks who search for the mono version of many of the old hits or present music today offered in mono. Phil Spector had dim view of LP's............one good song and the rest was crap. Some of that has changed, but still basically a true statement. |
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« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2011, 07:09:58 AM » |
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That's a good gear list. The complete opposite of Phil Spector's "Wall of Sound".
Mono music never hurt anybody.
73DG
Definitely True!!!!! There are folks who search for the mono version of many of the old hits or present music today offered in mono. Phil Spector had dim view of LP's............one good song and the rest was crap. Some of that has changed, but still basically a true statement. Yeah since the left speaker on the computer at work broke, I like to find youtube music in mono so I can hear everything.  |
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« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2011, 07:58:37 AM » |
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Got a local ham buddy who just restored a 1938 Zenith console. His latest comment "Stereo just isn't what it's cracked up to be..."
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« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2011, 10:47:10 AM » |
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One of the tricks used for mixing and mastering records 'back then' was for the engineer to listen to the mix on a typical car radio setup and speaker. Sometimes, you don't want to listen on a pair of thousand dollar studio monitors.
I once got a phone call from a listener complaining about 'too much bass' on a radio station..The guy had a $10K audio system in his BMW, including a gadget called a thumper, which is basically a voice coil assembly coupled to the car's body to pass along subsonic audio.
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« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2011, 02:58:29 PM » |
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Got a local ham buddy who just restored a 1938 Zenith console. His latest comment "Stereo just isn't what it's cracked up to be..."
I listen to FM broadcast radio in mono. Better S/N. |
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« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2011, 08:32:04 PM » |
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Get the Raising Sand LP by Plant and Krauss. I think TBone produced it, too. Good music.
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« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2011, 11:59:18 PM » |
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Get the Raising Sand LP by Plant and Krauss. I think TBone produced it, too. Good music.
Was just listening to that driving down I-95 from northern RI tonight...The cover of the Everly Brother's Gone Gone Gone (Done Moved On) is one of the best cuts on it. Yep - T Bone produced and played on it as well. Won a Grammy - best album of 2009. Gone Gone Gone also won a Grammy as a single. Here's a link to a Gone Gone Gone video - kinda goofy - the better parts include T Bone. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YVRxAX6fwg |
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« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2011, 10:46:57 AM » |
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Didn't T Bone play bass with Hall & Oats? I thought I saw him one time whilst watching Soul (say "SoooooouuuuuuuuL") Train!
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« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2011, 09:03:35 PM » |
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Too mello but she is one of my favorites.
While Zenith was good in the late 30's Philco had the edge IMO and RCA and S-C were in the mix. A Philco 38-690 is as about as good as it gets altho the Zenith 12S265 and RCA 811K sitting on either side are no slouches.
The zenith of mono was in the mid 50's with RCA's Quadraphonic Stereophonic consoles. AM-FM with phono deck and mono PP 6V6's to a pair of 12" and a pair of 4" speakers. I play the mono records on a rebuilt Garrad, or play thru the PC from Live 365. Most of the time one of the SX-62A's is run thru the audio deck.
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« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2011, 10:59:10 PM » |
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T-Bone Wolk was Hall and Oates' bass player. I used to watch him and GE Smith, Hall and Oates' lead guitarist when they were part of the Saturday Night Live band. T-Bone Burnett is one of popular music's best producers. Love the old tube gear, period!!
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« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2011, 01:03:53 AM » |
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Steve HX - after listening to the TR/AK Me and My Guitar link, went on to a really fine Tony Rice Unit "Nine Pound Hammer" video. Comment on it mentioned the TR Unit's Rob Ickes as the finest dobro player around. Relative of your'n? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwNDJleP4bU&feature=related |
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« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2011, 01:22:22 PM » |
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Steve HX - after listening to the TR/AK Me and My Guitar link, went on to a really fine Tony Rice Unit "Nine Pound Hammer" video. Comment on it mentioned the TR Unit's Rob Ickes as the finest dobro player around. Relative of your'n? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwNDJleP4bU&feature=relatedProlly not..............Steve always tells me that there are a lot Ickes around. |
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« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2011, 03:45:13 PM » |
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He's not a close relative. I don't ever recall him playing with TR (usually Jerry Douglas or Fred Travers) but there are so mamy incarnations of groups, it's hard to keep track.
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