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« on: August 31, 2010, 03:12:27 PM »

I have two new 6550 tubes ready to go into my JOHNSON RANGER, has anyone done this before. I am sure some have but is it worth the bias change and removing the old 6L6's, This not a big task but the 6550's are sure a lot bigger for a small space.

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« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2010, 03:15:26 PM »


Hey John,

     I would sell the 6550's on E-pay and buy a lifetime
supply of 6L6's.  Guitar guy's love those 6550's.

/Dan
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« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2010, 03:39:13 PM »

Read this: http://amfone.net/Amforum/index.php?topic=3806.0

And this:  http://amfone.net/Amforum/index.php?topic=22512.0

And this:  http://amfone.net/Amforum/index.php?topic=6742.0

Lots of previous discussions here on the forum concerning 6550's. Just click on Search and enter 6550 in the Search Field.
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« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2010, 07:36:29 PM »

Ever since high school (1960's) I have thought EL-34's and 6550's were 'bully tubes', used by some weird class of elitists.  Damn things.  Shocked

Kinkless tetrodes, Hah!

If you can't do it with either an 807 or 1625, forget it.
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« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2010, 09:34:37 PM »

Its time for KT-120's Grin

Send the 6550's to me, Im getting my old 100V back.

Carl
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« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2010, 02:46:25 AM »

The 6550's will pull a lot more current than the 6L6's.

I use 6550's to modulate a single 6146B in my HB xmtr.

Plate voltage is around 650V with a separate regulated 300V screen supply and a separate bias supply.  Bias voltage I think is around -32V,  idle current is around 75ma.  Don't exceed the plate dissipation.

6550's will kick up a lot of plate current but I use a separate 650V 350ma plate supply for the 6146B and the 6550's

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« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2010, 08:00:18 PM »


Here is an alternative modulator tube for the Ranger...

I've never seen this discussed before but the baby version of the 6550 is the 7591/7868/6GM5 series of tubes. These are much smaller tubes, the 7591 is about the size of a 6V6, but they have a stout 19 watt Pd rating. The high Gm, allows for 45 watts RMS out from a pair push pull class AB1 with a B+ of 450v. This level of output can be had with a mere 20v peak grid drive.

I think of these tubes as about 1/2 a 6550 with differing bases, and MUCH lower inter-electrode capacitances than the big 6550. In fact, I use a pair of 7591'a in my Central electronics 20A as a class Ab2 RF linear amp, where I get ~ 65 watts PEP RF output on 80m with 560 volts on the plate. These make great RF tubes in addition to audio. In the 20a the 7591's did a better job than a single 6550.

The 7591 is currently in production by JJ and EH for ~ $15-20 each. The EH uses are larger bulb. NOS, and used versions are plentiful but cost much more. Look on EPay. The 6GM5 might be around NOS, and the 7868 is also in production (EH), but more expensive.

I've had an old pair of "Fisher" branded 7591's in my 20a where they idle 30ma each at 600v, and have done so since 2003 when I built this rig. These are very stable tubes with long service life. The HV at 600 is above ratings, and I certainly would not go higher.

http://www.tubezone.net/tubedata.html

Jim
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« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2010, 08:07:27 PM »

I built up a W3AM modified Ranger several years ago and have been very happy with the results.  I also added negative peak limiting and can hold my own on the Fla
AM net barefoot.  I think it was worth it.  The mic amp was a little hot so I swapped the 12AU7 and 12AX7 around and it seems to work fine.  It has all the headroom you
need for 100% modulation.  Also I solid stated the power supply and added a 12dc
PTT relay.  When I fired it up the first time the meter switched arced over and took
out the meter movement.  After I finally found a replacement, I moved the meter
resistor to the cathode circuit to prevent it from happening again.  

73, John - W0ENE
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« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2010, 08:38:04 PM »

I am running EL34s in my Ranger and they work great.  I did all of the timtron mods though which were not too hard to do.  Solid stating the PS helps A LOT!

Tom - AB3FL

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