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« on: May 11, 2010, 05:16:13 PM »

Just wondering if anyone on AMFone uses the old Worldnet.att.net system.  I'm a user and have been jerked around by ATT.  My email servers keep getting changed. Anyone else experience this "seamless" experience?
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« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2010, 05:34:41 PM »

I was under the impression at&t's motto is "we know what's good for you even if you don't"

I wouldn't touch their services with a 10 foot pole.
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« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2010, 07:38:30 PM »




    Yeah, my email account apperance changed today and after many years of the
    original format, I DON'T LIKE IT !

    I JUST MIGHT BE DROPPING THE AT&T account and starting to use my Verison
    account for my prime email account.  The AT&T was back in the dial-up days
    and I just kept it active so my daughter could use it at her home after I put in
    Verison DSL.

    Also AT&T billing is somewhqat screwed up.  I am still being billed from the NJ office
    as well as the new Texas office.  Got to contact a live voice on that matter.

   
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« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2010, 11:15:06 PM »

at&t->swbell->yahoo. I was finally forced to use a yahoo encrypted POP3 mail server. Meanwhile NNTP services that were provided with AT&T were dropped, with no appropriate reduction in fees of course. The dumbing down of the "user experience".
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« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2010, 12:42:33 AM »

My ISP is AT&T DSL.  For a long time I had a mail client that interfaced with their mail server.  That quit working one day on its own.  I knew from experience that getting it to work would be a time consuming PITA and it might work for only a few months before some new problem surfaced.  So I shut down the client and started up a second gmail account and never looked back.

when you start up a new gmail (google mail) account now, there is a point in the process where they ask for information about your old email and you give them your username and mail ISP address and they'll get all your old email from the server and import it into your new gmail account so you have nothing left behind. 
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« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2010, 11:36:58 AM »




    Yeah, my email account apperance changed today and after many years of the
    original format, I DON'T LIKE IT !

    I JUST MIGHT BE DROPPING THE AT&T account and starting to use my Verison
    account for my prime email account.  The AT&T was back in the dial-up days
    and I just kept it active so my daughter could use it at her home after I put in
    Verison DSL.

    Also AT&T billing is somewhqat screwed up.  I am still being billed from the NJ office
    as well as the new Texas office.  Got to contact a live voice on that matter.

   

I have Verizon Fios and the broad band internet service has been great, but...they recently dropped the Yahoo Email service and switched us to Verizon EMail.  It is terrible!  Very user unfriendly and seems slow.  Accessing it when away from the home location is a joke!  Drops out and requires several attempts to get messages sent, etc.  I don't know why they changed it, but probably a cost-cutting measure.

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« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2010, 03:30:42 PM »

I have Verizon Fios and the broad band internet service has been great, but...they recently dropped the Yahoo Email service and switched us to Verizon EMail.  It is terrible!  Very user unfriendly and seems slow.  Accessing it when away from the home location is a joke!  Drops out and requires several attempts to get messages sent, etc.  I don't know why they changed it, but probably a cost-cutting measure.

Yahoo and Hotmail both make money by spamming the crap out of anyone who sends email to or receives email from any account in their respective systems.

I VERY SELDOM send email to a yahoo or hotmail address for that exact reason, and have been asking yahoo and hotmail users to please call me on the phone instead.

It sucks that they've cut you over to an unreliable service, but I'll bet good money that the people you correspond with get spammed a whole lot less now.
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« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2010, 05:06:02 PM »

To update, In the beginning, I had 1 ATT account.  One from way back before the SBC merge, when ATT was little ATT.  I was on their dialup Worldnet system.  It was a great system for the money with very little problems. Then DSL was offered by our local phone company SBC. I didn't want to give up my email addresses.  So little ATT had an option where one could bring their own service and access their email for $4.00/month. So I accessed my email using SBC to get to little ATT.  Included with the little ATT package was a large amount of webspace.  So  I had SBC DSL internet service that was used to access the little ATT email and web servers. This worked out great and $4.00/month wasn't a big deal. Lotsa bang for the buck. 

Come to present day, with big ATT and wanting to consolidate their infrastructure, they decide to dump Worldnet even though they now own it and put the Worldnet users through internet hell by switching around their servers and remove the free webspace access.  So I lost 2 webpages due to this and have been going through the email aggravation.  They haven't handled this well and I'm ticked that I no longer have webspace with my account unless I pay for it. 

So, ATT now has my email on a different server again.  This is server number 3.  In all of this I still retain my att.net email address, thankfully, which I have had for more than 10 years.  I hate having to tell hundreds of people that it changed. The thing that sucks is ATT did not notify me (or I didn't see it) that they were moving to a 3rd server.  I've got my email address stabilized for the time being and hopefully its the last move. My wife got hit today when she called me at work that her email did not work.  Some of my other sub accounts have yet to get hit at this time.  Talk about slow propagation.
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« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2010, 04:38:13 PM »

The friggin saga continues.  The last email server change trashed my ability to send email all because of a force password change.  Without email for 2 days I went ballistic on AT&T. It was a waste of time.  I use a Mozilla email client and AT&T doesn't like it for some reason and there's all sorts of messages on the net regarding it on the net.  The SMTP server seems to ignore anything that is non-MS.  AT&T only supports MS Outlook and Outlook Express. On a whim I pointed my email client back to the original Worldnet servers which were supposedly dead and were dead during this whole transistion. Miraculously they are working again. Probably for the short term but I have email and can send and receive.  This whole change over has been one big CF on AT&Ts part.
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« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2010, 07:38:32 PM »

The sad part of it is they are the only hi speed internet access I have out here so I 'm stuck with these dopes.
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« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2010, 08:12:13 PM »

As the saying goes "the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing". It’s not the old reliable AT&T we once knew before they were forced to split everything up back in the 1980’s. That company is long since gone and will never return.

A better way to put it: "One left foot doesn't know what the other left foot is doing."

Since the breakup I like not having to pay the phone co. a monthly rental fee for every "legal" telephone extension, and I like some of the third-party telephone gadgets available to-day.  But I don't like the proliferation of cheap phones and accesories that act like unintentional radio receivers. Those old WE phones were bullet-proof as far as rf was concerned. If there was a problem, a .001 mfd capacitor soldered across the carbon mic usually did the trick.

I use Hotmail for my published e-mail address. I don't publicly give out my ISP address, and so far, the spam on that account is minimal, and my Hotmail address is easy to remember: my callsign@hotmail.com, so it's a good one to use over the air. Hotmail's spam filter seems pretty good, and I have never heard of anyone having a spam problem after sending to a webmail address.  I use a custom HOSTS file which suppresses all the banner ads and other junk that displays with the "free" webmail accounts.  My Hotmail account looks pretty much like my ISP account when I open it with Outlook Express.
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« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2010, 12:36:18 PM »

Hotmail's spam filter seems pretty good, and I have never heard of anyone having a spam problem after sending to a webmail address.

They probably didn't notice, or didn't make the connection.

I've got a few email accounts that I almost never use for anything, and they get no spam as a result. In fact, my regular account gets almost no spam.

About two weeks ago, I made the mistake of emailing something to Timtron's hotmail account from my main account.

Within ten minutes, half the internet was beating on my digital door trying to sell me Viagra and porn. I've made that same mistake with yahoo accounts once or twice in the past, and the same thing happens.

If one routinely corresponds with yahoo and/or hotmail account holders, then they would never see the trend change (since it takes about three months of getting nowhere before the spambots decide they're wasting their time on you). If you only do so once or twice a year, it's impossible not to spot.
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« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2010, 04:16:03 PM »

I use a program called Mailwasher.  It's a neat little program if your a client email user. It allows you to screen email on the ISP server prior to downloading it into your system.  It has the ability to learn what is spam and what is not. It recognizes attachments and flags them.  You can manually set the email addresses you want to allow or disallow or it will do it automatically.  You can run it in auto mode or manual mode.  And the coolest thing is you have the ability to bounce email too. 

I have it on one computer that runs 24/7. It screens and automatically bounces and deletes suspect mail and passes allowed mail on 3 email accounts my wife and I use.

http://www.mailwasher.net/
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