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Author Topic: 813's now on the audiophool list?  (Read 5993 times)
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« on: January 09, 2009, 03:20:59 PM »

But as it looks, unsuccessfully.  "Bidding has ended for this item, 0 bids"

http://cgi.ebay.com/AUDIOROMY-FU13-813-tube-Valve-Tube-Integrated-Amplifier_W0QQitemZ110331906670QQcmdZ...
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« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2009, 03:31:57 PM »

350W in, 60W out. Nice!
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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2009, 03:43:18 PM »

I got a kick out of this spec:

Lose true degree  0.5% (At Full Power) 

Automatic translation of Chinese characters for what should be Total Harmonic Distortion?
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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2009, 03:51:41 PM »

when they learn the trick of triode connecting them for their pure sound, look out.
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« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2009, 04:23:35 PM »

I presume all of the triodes are consumed and now the audiophools are working on the pentodes.
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« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2009, 04:34:27 PM »

The problem with the 813 is that it looks nice.
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« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2009, 08:40:07 PM »

Are those Chinese  813s any good?  The plate structure in the photo had some serious fins (it looked like).

IF the audiophools can keep some good tube production financed with their money, good.
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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2009, 09:58:39 PM »

The shipping was the same price as the amplifier. They did not show the iron either. Show me the iron!
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« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2009, 12:29:57 PM »

Feedback and shipping cost are both scary!
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« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2009, 01:12:14 PM »

Having owned an audio mfr company for a few years and having built many tube amps, I wonder how they are getting 20Hz-30KHz +/- 1dB!! Roll Eyes  I couldn't realistically get any better than about +/- 3dB and that was 30-18KHz.  And I like the guarantee statement  100% new and 100% working. Good! Hate to buy something new and have it only work 70%.

Wonder if the 813 could be used in an OTL configuration? Maybe they did away with the output iron?

Looks nice anyway.

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« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2009, 03:40:24 PM »

You know, if you mount them there 813's upside down, you get better bass out of them.
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« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2009, 06:43:23 PM »

Having owned an audio mfr company for a few years and having built many tube amps, I wonder how they are getting 20Hz-30KHz +/- 1dB!! Roll Eyes  I couldn't realistically get any better than about +/- 3dB and that was 30-18KHz. 

UTC's LS and HA series boast high fidelity response +/- 1 dB or so between anywhere from 30-15,000~ and 7-40,000~, depending on the transformer.  It's been my experience that the frequency response of the vast majority of the LS transformers tends to get ragged above about 11K, with some serious peaks and dips.  I have some of the older pre-WW2 transformers with the more crude  cast-iron cases, and several of them drop off in response above about 5,000~.

I ran a test with my LS-49 class B driver transformer, connecting up a scope and feeding one end of the secondary winding into the horizontal plates and the other end into t he vertical plates, with the midtap grounded.  Running a sweep throughout the audio range, the pattern should have been a straight diagonal line at any setting of the signal  generator.  But in reality, above 11 or 12K the line began to split into a narrow elipse, indicating a slight phase shift between the two ends of the windings at the higher audio frequencies.  That was a brand new-old-stock transformer from the sealed box, and the frequency response was rated flat to at least 20k.

I didn't see it as a problem, and I have been using the transformer for over a decade now with good performance.  But it demonstrates that UTC apparently over-rated the specs on their transformers.

And I doubt that the transformers deteriorated over time.  What could happen to a transformer to cause its frequency response to deteriorate with age?  I suspect quality control banked on most users of the transformers taking their word for the specs without giving them a rigorous test, and perhaps cheerfully replacing the transformer with a carefully tested one if a customer did happen to complain.
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