The AM Forum
June 17, 2024, 03:29:13 PM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
 
   Home   Help Calendar Links Staff List Gallery Login Register  
Pages: [1]   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: HVDC power lines, why?  (Read 2667 times)
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
K6JEK
Contributing
Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1188


RF in the shack


« on: February 27, 2009, 06:13:25 PM »

I should know this but I don't.  Why are HVDC power lines more efficient that AC?

Is the skin effect significant even at 60 Hz?
Do the AC lines couple to the Earth and lose power inductively?
Should I think of a 60 Hz 100KV line as a transmission line with an air dielectric and capacitance?

Power people, help me out. 
Logged
WB2YGF
Guest
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2009, 06:45:20 PM »

I believe I was once told it was because the inductive reactance of the wire causes a loss for AC, DC being immune to inductive reactance.  Though I can't find anything on the web to corroborate that.  I did find this (can't vouch for the accuracy):

http://www.scribd.com/doc/7360181/HVDC-Transmission-Lines

See page 2.
Logged
k4kyv
Contributing Member
Don
Member

Offline Offline

Posts: 10037



« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2009, 06:54:16 PM »

Over long distances, inductive and capacitive losses are greater with a.c.  With DC only two wires are needed, whereas with three phase a.c. a minimum of 3 wires are needed.  The peak-to-average power ratio and peak voltage/current handling capacity must taken into account with a.c.  But the DC converters are much more expensive, and transformers don't work with DC.

For a short distance, the cost of the extra cable and power losses is insignificant compared to the cost of the converters, so the ac system wins.  For a long distance, the cost of the extra cable in the ac system outweighs the cost of the converters at each end, and the power losses become significant.

For overhead lines, the break-even distance for DC transmission is 600-700 KM .

http://oldeee.see.ed.ac.uk/private/ee3/pe/dem/6-hvdc.pdf

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HVDC
Logged

Don, K4KYV                                       AMI#5
Licensed since 1959 and not happy to be back on AM...    Never got off AM in the first place.

- - -
This message was typed using the DVORAK keyboard layout.
http://www.mwbrooks.com/dvorak
K6JEK
Contributing
Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1188


RF in the shack


« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2009, 01:59:21 AM »

Thanks

Jon
Logged
Pages: [1]   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

AMfone - Dedicated to Amplitude Modulation on the Amateur Radio Bands
 AMfone © 2001-2015
Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines
Page created in 0.062 seconds with 19 queries.