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« on: December 29, 2008, 09:40:50 AM »

I know that this is an A.M. mode/Phone board BUT I was wondering if anyone was playing with the Olivia mode? Multiple tones and bandwidth, capable of operating below the noise floor. Typically equal to 20WPM speed. It's almost like a PSK mode.
It was mentioned in this month's QST. Free software but an op would need an interface between the computer and the radio??

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« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2008, 09:52:58 AM »

Hey Fred.

Indeed OLIVIA mode is pretty neat stuff.  There are different settings for it and with 500 hz @ 8 tones one can actually get closer to 30wpm, much more my typing speed.  It does require the same type of interace that psk or sstv or any other digital mode via a computer sound card needs.  At the very minimum one would mic your computer speakers for transmit and feed your ext speaker into the sound card mic or line input... that's really crude but actually can work... much more desirable is to build an isolated audio interface or use something like a rigblaster or tigertronics interface so that your keying and everything is really smooth and automated.... oh yes and it utilizes upper sideband so you need a ssb rig. 

The mode is considered "robust" in that it is solid copy even below the noise and is great for dx'ing or just ragchewing in bad conditions.  Most of the activity is on 40 and 20 meters.  You can find out more about it at
 http://hflink.com/olivia/

I enjoyed it for a while but AM has captured my interests lately and I haven't played with it in a few weeks.

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« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2008, 01:28:21 PM »

Have used it on 137 and 500 kHz. Works no better or worse than other similar modes. A sound card is all that's required.
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« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2008, 02:02:58 PM »

Playing your radio speaker aloud and letting the computer microphone pick it up can work surprisingly well, especially in modes that are already hardened someone against noise and interference like Olivia. That will get you started receiving, from there you can decide if you want to build an interface.

On 2 meter FM, we've successfully exchanged slow scan pics using MMSSTV and just hand mics and speakers with a nearby laptop. On HF SSTV, PSK31 and other modes, I used to let the laptop in my van copy them while I was driving just by reading them in with the laptop mic off the regular radio speaker - if it works in that noisy environment (and SSTV did show the noise, but came through surprisingly well) it will work around a quiet desktop and I've had several friends get started that way.

Check out http://www.qsl.net/wm2u/interface.html. He's got some simple schematics of how to make basic interfaces with just a resistive divider. With an isolated laptop, that may be all you need.

For PTT, they often show an opto isolator or a transistor switch. For myself, what I often do for simple interfaces is get a cheap reed relay from the junk box or off the wall at radio shack. Put it in series with a simple diode, 1n4148 is adequate, on the CTS or RTS line to ground so that when the line is asserted (flips polarity) it will close the relay contacts and there you have a nice isolated PTT connection. (when the line is not asserted, it will be the other polarity somewhere between 5 and 15 volts and the diode will block the flow and the relay opens). It might not be fast enough for some really critical modes like AMTOR or Pactor, but it's fine for RTTY, PSK, SSTV, Olivia, etc.

My favorite program for PSK31 is digipan 2.0. I also enjoy listening and copying MFSK, it has a nice rolling sound to it, sort of reminiscent of RYRYRYR on rtty.  Wink

Enjoy and let us know how you make out.
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« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2008, 05:39:02 PM »

Fred, I read that article in QST.  Downright spooky how he described the signal coming from below the average noise floor.  - "Ghost signals"
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« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2008, 02:20:32 AM »

Rick,

I mean no disrespect by this, but as a young buck (okay younger than most of us here) I wasn't all that familiar with the "fireside chats", therefore not immediately recognizing what your "profile pic" thingy was about, I thought it was really *spooky*!!  It dawned on me after recently reading about Roosevelt and the fireside chats somewhere what your pic was.... funny how a little clarity will unspook something.  Pretty cool now that I understand it better....

de KX5JT John
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« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2008, 09:06:54 AM »

thats not that.....thats the exhibit that went around showing off dead bodies some time back.
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