For those who VooDoo.

[ka3zlr]

You Do... ..LOL...

http://www.wz5q.net/index/audiocrew.htm

[Opcom]

Well that was annoying to look at, assuming anything on there stays still long enough to see. (hit ESC to stop the wiggling) Reminds me of a few sites on the CB web-ring. There's a forum that seems to have some interesting discussions about the low frequencies. I did not find too much technical stuff there yet.

[k4kyv]

I think I can tell where this is going.  I have no problem with "ESSB", although I think good old yea-yemm is still the best way to go.  I get a real kick out of hearing and seeing the space-shuttle audio crew get their knickers in a twist over "hi-fi SSB" or even the mention thereof.

But when I visited the VooDoo site it didn't take me long to navigate here.  There appears now to be an easy solution to the problem of "breaking in" your speaker cables and power cords.  Instead of paying $600-$1000 for a Cable Cooker, just buy a CD that can run anywhere from $20 to $80.  These promise to break in your entire system and give every component a real workout.

Of course, the site offers the usual run of $600 power cords, but also a few Budget Performers for as low as $150.

The site also offers a 10-foot length of Bi-Wire speaker cable with spade lugs attached, for only $8,400.00, guaranteed to offer exceptional sonic capabilities since it is internally bi-wired. The conductors are all Audioquest’s proprietary Perfect Surface Silver for outstanding resolution, speed and tonality. The included 72V DBS system keeps the noise floor low and increases low-level resolution. Of course there is an array of cheaper cables for the budget minded.

I wonder if we could talk them into to manufacturing some bi-wired antenna feedline and Perfect Surface Silver antenna wire, to reduce the noise floor on the short wave bands when atmospheric conditions suck?

[ka3zlr]

What No comments about the equipment...Yuns guyz see them Audio racks...man.... there's mo money in audio processing than ya can shake a stick at..LOL...for Amateur Radio.. SSB Phone no less..Sheeze what a site I Like It....

We gotta have that Kenwood zound..Kenwood Audio Smoothness......

Processing Personified....When You Do the VooDoo... ...LOL...

I don't think they have Chicken Band in mind there at all...

[W1ATR]

lol, I've been in a few QSO's with some of these guys and they're real serious about all this wide audio stuff. Some o them have some major change tied up putting these rack systems together and I don't even want to think how many hours burnt chasing the RF boogeyman around to get it all to play nice together.

Personally, I like running a couple of pieces of gear on my slopbucket station along with a decent mic just to 'smooth it out a bit', but nothing like how far those guys push the issue. I like a nice clean preamp, little bit of compression, and a simple parametric EQ. Feed it all with an RE27nd and call it a day. I'll pass on the over processed ultra bass and dog calling highs and keep it natural sounding.

It's my voice. I was born with it. I know it sucks, and I want to irritate as many people as possible with it.

[ka3zlr]

Oh Jared could you imagine...having RF trouble....Oh my...Not for me OM..LOL..

But the site is Kewel...I like it...all that technology man..Excellent...

Dem Catz is on the Ball there...Well Done...

[k4kyv]

Tessitura on a Kenwood?

[ka3zlr]

But it's VooDoo Don,

[KC4KFC]

Great audio is cool.

But I have a question. The other day I was listening on 17 meters when I heard a loud ssb QRM close by. Tuned up the dial and there was a pipeline with a huge 20+ sig with beautiful audio. Very nice. But out of curiosity, I wanted to see how wide his signal was. It was a full 7kcs.

I am not whining or complaining about it but just thinking that 17 meters is only 70 kcs or so wide for voice; then only 10 of these qsos could go on without QRM.

And I bet the guy has no idea he is that wide. I should have asked. I bet he thinks he is  3.5 tops.

So bandwidth is a bag of worms but I just want to know,

How wide of a signal is cool and how wide of a signal is not cool? Slop bucket and yay-yemm?

Too bad they can't discover Dolby or something that crunches and expands....

73
Mark

[ka3zlr]

Hi Mark,

 You'll find a few on 17, beautiful zounding Sig-In-Nails, I've werked quite a number of these guys through the years but I like it up there Where there is Room to Expand and experiment...Space....

And that's my play on this, as well as teasing About "The VooDoo"..I think that's Hip..VooDoo...who do you do..LOL...""THE VOODOO""... ....But when there's room Like on 17, not much elbow bending traffic in the way... hey man let her fly...Experiment and open it up have fun...I like that alot...

I'm with Don on alot of problems within the Service, and the bandwidth Folks need to lighten up...give these guys some space....ya know alot of these gentlemen are very Accomplished Both in the Service and in life and just a pleasure to pick their brains some times...Good Technique...some of their Builds are fantastic werks of Art, if you like this sort of thing and I do...Some of those processors...WOW...

All in all a nice Web Site and Interesting Folks having fun...Sharing their Knowledge...

73 OM.

[Pete, WA2CWA]

On 17 meters, the phone portion is only 58 KHz wide. No one who believes in "considerate operating skills" should be operating wide band anything there. FCC should impose bandwidth limitations (3 KHz max.) on this band. Same with 12 meters. There's only 60 KHz for phone there too. Wideband SSB is about as silly as it gets. Voo-Dumb is probably a better suited acronym if you do it on these two bands.

[ka3zlr]

Ya know Pete, yer a Pain in the Assp...LOL............................

http://members.aol.com/Al5010/sounds/nyuk.wav

[Steve - WB3HUZ]

I disagree. If the band is unused or otherwise unoccupied, use it. Bandwidth too often is used in a vain attempt support a red herring argument for more control or to deny others something someone just doesn't like. The same poor arguments have been used by AM haters for years.

On 17 meters, the phone portion is only 58 KHz wide. No one who believes in "considerate operating skills" should be operating wide band anything there. FCC should impose bandwidth limitations (3 KHz max.) on this band. Same with 12 meters. There's only 60 KHz for phone there too. Wideband SSB is about as silly as it gets. Voo-Dumb is probably a better suited acronym if you do it on these two bands.

[W1AEX]

Bandwidth is a renewable resource. When a station unkeys, all the bandwidth is still there...

As the Joker would say, "Why so seeerious?"

Rob W1AEX

[ka3zlr]

I Like the way you put that Rob..FB...The resource isn't taken away it is used and then left for others, well done. 

[Opcom]

I don't mind ESSB or other wide signals as long as good manners are used.
I was merely annoyed by the plethora of convoluting and twiddling objects on the website. I am sure alot of time was spent on them, but it's too gaudy for me. Voo-Doo or the equivalent.. It seems to be about inteligibility.

On that audio store site, I found some items we all should use with the larger racks and transmitters to make them exceptionally fast and agile, providing far greater resolution and dynamics.
http://www.musicdirect.com/product/74218

[W1AEX]

Wow, they really lay it on thick don't they?

"Mammoth are exceptionally fast and agile, providing far greater resolution and dynamics." Whoaa... RINGMAT - MAMMOTH FEET (Set of 4)... all this for $280!!!! That's not funny!!!! ...And what the heck are they talking about?

This reminds me of the www.engrish.com site with all the weirdly translated Japanese to English products. When I am feeling especially lazy, I like to browse that site for a laugh.

Rob W1AEX

[Steve - WB3HUZ]

The call it VooDoo because they don't understand what is going on. It's all magic. What was that saying about a fool and his money?

[ka3zlr]

Oh there's No discounting that fact... Audio Engineering comes with a Price...How much is needed or how much is Over Kill I dunno..For me the Simpler the better..

But looking in on their Stations and seeing their builds and the work put forth what they're up to is interesting.

[k4kyv]

The call it VooDoo because they don't understand what is going on. It's all magic. What was that saying about a fool and his money?

That dates back to the early 80's.  Remember "voodoo economics"?

[W4EWH]

The call it VooDoo because they don't understand what is going on. It's all magic. What was that saying about a fool and his money?

"A Fool and His Money Were Lucky to Get Together in the First Place"

[Pete, WA2CWA]

And we have THE VOODOO VAPORIZER