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« Reply #25 on: December 17, 2024, 04:54:52 PM »

mica disease is really silver disease if that is what is on the mica wafers.
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« Reply #26 on: December 17, 2024, 07:41:56 PM »


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« Reply #27 on: December 20, 2024, 05:00:25 PM »

mica disease is really silver disease if that is what is on the mica wafers.
Correct. Mica caps without silver do not fail.
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« Reply #28 on: December 20, 2024, 06:07:26 PM »

Correct. Mica caps without silver do not fail.
Not really a true statement!

Yes, mica capacitors, even silver mica capacitors, can fail, although they are generally considered very reliable components due to their stable construction, but factors like aging, manufacturing defects, or extreme environmental conditions can lead to failure. Extreme temperatures or humidity can also affect the performance and lifespan of a mica capacitor. Poor quality mica or improper manufacturing processes can lead to weak or inconsistent capacitors.

Mica capacitors, specifically "silver mica capacitors," are still manufactured today and are used in applications where high stability, low loss, and precise capacitance values are required, particularly in high-frequency circuits like RF transmitters and high-voltage applications due to their excellent electrical properties; however, "clamped mica capacitors" are considered obsolete due to inferior characteristics compared to silver mica capacitors.

These encapsulated silver mica capacitors generally are considered quite reliable. I have bags of these caps at various capacitance and voltage that were manufactured in the 60's and still hold their accuracy and performance today.



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HOWEVER: the open-construction of silver mica capacitors in IF transformers can be very problematic given the right environmental conditions.
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« Reply #29 on: December 20, 2024, 07:00:38 PM »

  Yes, I keep a stock of those around, and I've built some impressively stable VFO's with them. Nice parts. Will they still be working as well in fifty years? Probably, but I suspect I'll have moved on to other things by then.

Correct. Mica caps without silver do not fail.
Not really a true statement!

Yes, mica capacitors, even silver mica capacitors, can fail, although they are generally considered very reliable components due to their stable construction, but factors like aging, manufacturing defects, or extreme environmental conditions can lead to failure. Extreme temperatures or humidity can also affect the performance and lifespan of a mica capacitor. Poor quality mica or improper manufacturing processes can lead to weak or inconsistent capacitors.

Mica capacitors, specifically "silver mica capacitors," are still manufactured today and are used in applications where high stability, low loss, and precise capacitance values are required, particularly in high-frequency circuits like RF transmitters and high-voltage applications due to their excellent electrical properties; however, "clamped mica capacitors" are considered obsolete due to inferior characteristics compared to silver mica capacitors.

These encapsulated silver mica capacitors generally are considered quite reliable. I have bags of these caps at various capacitance and voltage that were manufactured in the 60's and still hold their accuracy and performance today.



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HOWEVER: the open-construction of silver mica capacitors in IF transformers can be very problematic given the right environmental conditions.
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« Reply #30 on: December 20, 2024, 09:35:33 PM »

You might be seeing the effects of bad silver-mica capacitors. Apparently silver can migrate thru the mica insulation forming little fingers (dendrites) which can intermittently short the capacitor, cause capacitance changes, and/or affect the capacitor's Q.

I had read this before so I asked the great Karnac ' Google

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