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« on: November 17, 2024, 10:48:44 PM »

This past weekend was the Vintage Radio and Phonograph Society annual convention, held in Richardson, TX (Dallas).

While not precisely an AM ham radio event, most of what was there is old radios and boatanchor stuff that receives AM and shortwave. Naturally there are radios with FM, TV sets and phonographs and some 'hi-fi' gear, and random BC and technician test equipment at these events. Because the latter two as well as any 'recent' ham gear are not as common in the event, they are usually had for very cheap including sometimes RF power tubes. Maybe some here are interested in this kind of pursuit. I find it a lot of fun and also nice people who do all kinds of radio and electronics. I don't have but one photo, but there will be some on their www page after a while I hope.


There were four auctions:
 - literature/paper and vacuum tubes
 - general items with low-starting bids
 - silent auction
 - Main auction of higher-end items

A technical session was given on Early Vacuum Tubes, Patents and Scams, scientists, and the liars and frauds of those days. The DeForest and Fleming tubes and development were detailed, also the Sodion tube, and patent avoidance methods.

There was also an 'equipment contest' with several categories:
1. Crystal Radios Pre 1940
2. Non Radio Electrical Equipment Pre 1940
3. AC Table Transformer Radios Pre WWII
4. AC/DC Non Transformer Radios Pre 1960
5. Transistor Radios Pre 1965
6. Electrical Phonographs & Related Accessories Pre 1950
7. Wind Up Acoustical Phonographs & Related Accessories
8. Novelty Radios -- Tube ,Transistor or Hybrid
9. Radio-Related Ads, Ephemera, and Accessories
10. Test Equipment Pre 1950
11. Table Top Art Deco Radios (Includes Catalin, Chrome front,
others)
12. Battery Radios Pre 1928
13. Foreign Tube Radios
14. Microphones
15. Loudspeakers & Headphones
16. Open Category (Radio related items not belonging in any
other categories)
 - The categories change somewhat each year to rotate through a wider array (ham, military, etc.) and members can suggest categories to the Board.


Couple things I noted in the contest, One was the largest broadcast mike I've ever seen - the body of it was about the size of a coffee can, suspended by thick rubber strips in a frame. The note said it was a stage mike and also used for orchestras.

There was also a really hot arcade 'shocking' device. For the price of a penny (a dish-full of which were thoughtfully supplied by the contestant), one could activate an induction coil for about 15 seconds, and grab two knobs. Twisting one of the knobs caused a pointer to move from 0 to 500, and the shock level to increase proportionally. In my opinion it was actually dangerous. I quit well below full scale. It won second place in category 2.

The last event was a banquet with a detailed history of broadcasting given by guest speaker David Ostmo who is a Regional Engineering Director for the Sinclair
Broadcast Group.

During the convention, several door prizes and raffle prizes were also awarded - mainly a few professionally restored antique radios e.g. Sterling 7-C-696 and Zenith 8-S-129.

For my part I bought a box of large US-made old panel meters, and sold a Western Electric tube, type D-86327, the high-insulation version of the later 104-D. It's also called the 'repeater tube' or the 'tennis ball' tube. This is a 1922 triode that uses 4V@1A for the filament, so it was a somewhat large tube for audio purposes.

There is more about the event and about the Society here: http://www.vrps.org/





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« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2024, 10:18:07 PM »

These came home with me. Someone else got them in one of the auctions for $4 (what I'm saying about certain things being cheap), and turns out the individual bought them in error thinking they were tube tester meters. These Westinghouse meters went for a total of $4, so if even one is good then it's perfect.

10 are RF ammeters, of a type stamped 'accurate to 65MC'. No idea what current the ones saying 'per cent of normal radiator current' are calibrated for.

One meter is a filament voltmeter of 0-25V, but has a sticker on it saying 18.5V. What old TX tube runs on an 18.5V filament?



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« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2024, 09:05:06 AM »

Nice comprehensive post...Thanks, I almost felt like I attended.  I wonder what that 15 Amp RF meter was for?
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« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2024, 02:32:01 PM »

I've always had a weakness for old Bakelite meters: Weston, Triplett, Simpson... all great stuff. Nice find! I've brought home quite a few that didn't work, but most do, and often with surprising accuracy.
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« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2024, 03:34:23 PM »

Figure the 15A meter was a common point current for a 5.0 kW AM station, most every 5 kW AM station I have ever been to has a common point of 10.5 amps, base current would be lower depending on number of towers and stuff like that. On the 50 kW CC Stations they would run a common point of around 30 amps! I have a box full of meters from different places I worked and have one of those huge Weston meters from an early FM that reads from 0 to 115% and always wanted to put that on a box at my desk with a pot to adjust it so when people come into the office you can point to the meter and say, sorry but I am only good for a 30% or whatever percentages of effort they want for today. Had one of those bosses that always hit you with “I want to see 100% effort” Typical company man Hack.

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