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« on: June 02, 2005, 09:09:58 AM »

Hello All,
June 20 target date for the new QTH in PencilTucky (Pa.) is getting closer and closer.
I have a rack with my audio processor and a the R-390A that will be moved by a contractor. The rack is on wheels. The R-390A is sitting on a 2X6 piece of wood that is screwed REAL WELL  into the rack cabinet. Most of the rack screws are used on the radio.

Question: WILL THE R-390A SURVIVE THE MOVING EXPERIENCE?

Thanks

Fred...................MOP radio
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« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2005, 09:49:05 AM »

An R-390 could probably be dropped out of a B-29 without negative effect.

However, on the chance that it could come loose and damage something else, I'd recommend removing it from the rack and have them pack it separately.  I've had boatanchors moved all over the world (US-->Kenya--Philippines-->US-->Cuba-->US) with no damage, so these guys can and will pack them OK.  But trying to keep a bunch of semi-loose and heavy components together is begging for disaster, IMHO.

WHere in PA are you moving to, Fred?

73 John
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« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2005, 10:11:07 AM »

Hi John
moving to the hustling bustling city of 30,000 souls called New Castle Pa. 50 miles N of Pittsburgh. It's been a childhood dream of moving to the hometown of my parents. Maybe they will decide to move back and we can have them close by.

I want to have a real radio shack, not some spot carved out in the house. I can get the Amish to build a 10X10 probably real nice for around a $$ thou
I'll be looking into a used telephone pole 60-70 feet high to support one end of the dipole or inverted L. There are some nice high trees in front of the house for the other end of whatever wire aerial I decide to put up.
 I'm on a 1 acre lot. So, there's some playing room.......for once!!!

I wuda thought with the 90 sitting on the huge block of wood mounted in the rack that there would be all kinds of support. Maybe I should move the radio down to the bottom of the rack????????? I can't deal with the rental of a van or extra trips for this move. I'm moving the small sensitive stuff in my car and I don't want that overloaded that it becomes unsafe to drive.

Any suggestions or thoughts?

Fred
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« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2005, 11:31:22 AM »

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« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2005, 11:39:52 AM »

Fred,
         You may consider using pluming STRAP as a hold down. This stuff is cheep and strong- its used to "hang" pipe, etc. The steel (or copper plated steel) is perferated with holes along its length.  Just bolt it to what you want held, then bolt that to the rack. I don't like the idea of screws bearing the weight /shock during a move. Lowering the cent. of grav. a bit wont hurt either. The STrap is gud for grounding stuff to as its inductance is lower than Cu wire.
           One 'phone pole? If u are going to the trouble of erecting one pole, why not put up two? Assuming the pwr co will do the work, the biggest part of the cost is getting the manpower to the site. If you have the real estate i'd suggest goin fer it. Also, you might get the pole up higher than a "standard" height. The load a pwr pole is rated for is probably higher than  wire ants. A pole pig is up twards the top and they are not light in weight...               klc
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« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2005, 01:05:17 PM »

My vote is remove it from the rack and pack it in a double wall box.  If you don't, the movers will find a way to bend all the shafts, scratch the face and break the meter and viewing glass.

The military regularly demils R390's while leaving them in the rack.  The front panels hold up very very well to the sledge hammer hits but everything that makes an R390 precious gets destroyed.

 Tom
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« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2005, 02:52:20 PM »

Hi Fred,

   If the movers cannot move an R390A then chances are they will mess up a whole lot of other stuff. Where did you find these people? Did you get references or check with consumer affairs for complaints? Do they have adequate coverage from the insurance mafia?
    If you are still worried then tell them about all the dead people who accidentally broke the meters.
    If you are STILL worried then remove the power supply and throw the blasted thing in the trunk.
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« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2005, 09:23:27 PM »

Fred,
Put that baby in the car with you, move it like a family pet.
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« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2005, 09:49:29 PM »

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Fred,
Put that baby in the car with you, move it like a family pet.
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« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2005, 10:48:38 PM »

Moving companies do not "insure" goods they move.  They cover losses themselves outside of insurance because they don't want to be subject to insurance rules in any state.  

They are considered a common carrier by the Government and adhere to the loss rules the Fed stipulates (make them give you a copy of those rules).  They are not as comprehensive as moving insurance is.  You can purchase a moving insurance policy from an independant company and if you plan to have coverage, I suggest you purchase from that independant company.  They will tell you who can and how to pack your gear.  Take LOTS of pictures of everything from all sides in case you must prove condition.  Items like the R390 are hard to prove value.  You will have to prove it's worth before they will even talk about money.

I found out the hard way and did not recover losses in a previous move.  My move was company sponsored, not U.S. Gov.  They chipped paint, broke tubes (572Bs, 4-250 and others) and lost some of our stuff.  To get their coverage, you must let them pack the equipment, or they will say it wasn't packed properly and deny paying (does this sound familar, UPS?).

Even though they packed our household and my equipment, they did not do it well.  They even damaged pots and pans from the kitchen.  The company in question was Mayflower which is in cahoots with United, I believe.  It took almost 9 months to collect anything, because they confused my claim with another and had their paperwork all fowled up.  

The driver is responsible for the safety of the goods and threw a fit at the way the person who gave me the quote specified my equipment be packed.  The driver made the selling agency come back to my house to pack my equipment and they didn't know how to pack electronic gear.  For that job, all moving companies have trucks that move electronic gear and if you insist they do it, request that the specialist move all electronics including your TV.

I would recommend staying away from Mayflower or United if you are considering them.  They were a nightmare for me.  Another thing that is VERY and I stress VERy important is the inventory.  Be sure you watch everything they do and what is inventoried.  I have a 2500 dollar antique wood stove that they seperated after loading.  They did not unload the base but called out the inventory number for the entire stove.  Not realizing the base was gone, I said OK.  I had to find another base to the tune of 450 dollars.

Long story, but be careful and don't expect the sales agent to tell you these things.
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« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2005, 06:48:18 AM »

OK Gang
There are a lot of very good thoughts here. Thank you!
I am moving using Allied Van Lines. And I WILL take the R390 in the car with me. It is a once in a lifetime radio that never saw military service and the movers would probably manage to break it. I'll be loading my rigs and Titan Linear and a Teac reel-reel in my little car....ouch!   I have been taking digi pics of everything worth over $100. I put the camera into the macro mode and focus on the serial numbers too.
We'll see what happens around June 21.
' 73 Fred
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