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W1GFH
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« Reply #25 on: February 20, 2005, 06:18:17 PM »

I understand the law of supply and demand. What I don't understand is the logic that says "because someone paid $50 for a 3885 xtal on eBay, now all 3885 xtals are worth $50".
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« Reply #26 on: February 20, 2005, 06:33:29 PM »

Only one way to find out:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewItem&item=5752681247
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« Reply #27 on: February 20, 2005, 11:11:27 PM »

What is interesting about this post and the replies is that several of the people who appear distressed about the price of boatanchors and have strong criticism of Ebay as an evil thing for ham radio, have engaged in selling boatanchors at excessively high prices themselves! I could easily cite specific examples but that is not necessary!

The art of buying and selling ham radio equipment is far from being simple, so as to give a break to someone when needed, not give away the bank and know when to apply the rules for each. We all can make errors but pissing and moaning about the price of what you want to buy, while selling your BA's for Ebay prices is hypocritical.

There are other factors also. There is a 75A2 presently on Ebay with a buy-it-now price of $950. It is a superb piece   BUT YOU SAY  $950 .. why that's outrageous. Brand new it cost $850 some 55 years ago, without the darn case! Well take a look at it and count the fact that it's not in the dumpster (someone rescued it) someone bought it. Someone had it restored by the master artist of Collins radio .. Howard Mills .. and the piece is now available to you, beautiful and fully restored and operational for your pleasure. Is it worth $950 .. only the seller and the buyer will know for sure!


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5753357544

Golly, it's gorgeous!

--Larry W8ER
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« Reply #28 on: February 20, 2005, 11:17:23 PM »

You are using Monopoly money.

http://www.note.com/note/pp/tvm_mod.html
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K1MVP
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« Reply #29 on: February 21, 2005, 09:37:40 AM »

Quote from: W1GFH
I understand the law of supply and demand. What I don't understand is the logic that says "because someone paid $50 for a 3885 xtal on eBay, now all 3885 xtals are worth $50".


I guess my question would be why would someone pay $50.00 for
an FT-243(3885 xtal) on ebay when a whole assortment of Ft-243
xtals for 160, 80, 40 meters are available from AF4K at $9.00 each
plus shipping.
As far as "complaining",-- about this "subject"--the same
could be said about any other subject on the BB board, "politics"
or whatever,--but people do have a right to voice thier opinion,
or so I thought.
IMO, if a guy wants to pay "big bucks", on epay, then let him "go for it".
                                           
                                              73, Rene, K1MVP :neutral:
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W8ER
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« Reply #30 on: February 21, 2005, 10:27:11 AM »

Rene said:
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As far as "complaining",-- about this "subject"--the same
could be said about any other subject on the BB board, "politics"
or whatever,--but people do have a right to voice thier opinion,
or so I thought.


Rene,

My point clearly was, let's not be hypocritical about it .. that is, "complain" about Ebay and the high price of BA's and then sell yours for Ebay prices. That's a fairly simple concept!

It would have been necessary for you to completely misread my post to think I was "complaining" about voicing an opinion.  :oops:  I think voicing opinions are downright Amurican!

In fact, let me solicit your opinion. What do you think a Valiant should be sold for these days .. understanding that they consistently sell for anywhere between $400 and $700 on Ebay? If you had one ..   :mrgreen: .. would you be willing to sell yours for, maybe $75 because they used to sell at hamfests for that price?


--Larry W8ER
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« Reply #31 on: February 21, 2005, 11:22:10 AM »

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As far as "complaining",-- about this "subject"--the same
could be said about any other subject on the BB board, "politics"
or whatever,--but people do have a right to voice thier opinion,
or so I thought.


Why is it some here kneejerk to a differing opinion as  if "their right to an opinion" has been violated Huh
Me voicing an opposite opinion in now way means I have denied you yours !!!!


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would you be willing to sell yours for, maybe $75 because they used to sell at hamfests for that price?


I still gots a Viker 2 w/ VFO for sale for $150 !!!

Or shud I up that to $1500 Huh (adjusted for inflation)
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W1GFH
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« Reply #32 on: February 21, 2005, 12:13:04 PM »

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IMO, if a guy wants to pay "big bucks", on epay, then let him "go for it".


Absolutely agree. And if you have a "hot" item like a Ranger, an SX88, or an unbuilt Heathkit to sell, go for it -- and may you get the very best price possible.

However, just because *some* vintage gear sells for 5 figure prices on eBay doesn't mean *all* vintage gear is worth that.

I'm reminded of Michael Douglas speech in the 1980's movie WALL STREET...

Greed is right.

Greed works.

Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit.

Greed, in all of its forms -- greed for life, for money, for love, knowledge -- has marked the upward surge of mankind.

And greed -- you mark my words -- will not only save Teldar Paper, but that other malfunctioning corporation called the USA.



Excellent topic by the way. I brought it up on the air yesterday and a near riot of differing opinions ensued. :cool:
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K1MVP
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« Reply #33 on: February 21, 2005, 02:57:27 PM »

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Rene said:
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As far as "complaining",-- about this "subject"--the same
could be said about any other subject on the BB board, "politics"
or whatever,--but people do have a right to voice thier opinion,
or so I thought.


Rene,

My point clearly was, let's not be hypocritical about it .. that is, "complain" about Ebay and the high price of BA's and then sell yours for Ebay prices. That's a fairly simple concept!

It would have been necessary for you to completely misread my post to think I was "complaining" about voicing an opinion.  :oops:  I think voicing opinions are downright Amurican!

In fact, let me solicit your opinion. What do you think a Valiant should be sold for these days .. understanding that they consistently sell for anywhere between $400 and $700 on Ebay? If you had one ..   :mrgreen: .. would you be willing to sell yours for, maybe $75 because they used to sell at hamfests for that price?


--Larry W8ER


Hi Larry,--Good to hear from you again,

First of all, I DO agree with you, on not being "hypocritical"--i.e., selling
stuff at "top dollar" on EBAY and then that same person complaining
because of the "epay" prices.
 
I have purchased only one item on EBAY, a couple of years ago, es
that was a Drake 2B, es at a fairly "good price",--only abt $150.00
The only "problem" I found was that it did not have the original 10
meter xtal, so I could not use the receiver on a portion of the 10mtr
band, and 15 meters was not working because of it.
Now it was not a "big deal", as I could get the proper xtal, BUT the
seller neglected to mention it.--es thats where I have a problem.
But the same kind of thing happens at hamfests,--so be it.

Now on your "querrie" on the Valiant--My policy is to try to price
it "reasonable" based on condition.
I know this can be very "subjective" but from my experience over
the years in seeing what typical equipment goes for, --both on the
"high" and "low" side,--I try to ask somewhere in the "middle".
Again, other "variables" come into play--i.e, the overall condition
and how "good" is a piece of equipment i.e, --a DX-40 vs a Ranger,
should be obvious as to which is the "better" piece.

Back to the Valiant,--I would think if the xmtr is in "good shape" and
not "butchered", es full of rust es corrosion, a fair price would be
between $350.00 and $400.00--but that is just my "opinion".
As to a $75 valiant, --I am well aware, that is a thing of the past,
unless the rig were a "basketcase"--man its hard to find a decent
DX-40 for that price anymore.
BUT, I would think that $800 bucks for a Valiant is a bit on the high
side, unless I just HAD to have one,(so the price is "subjective")

As far as EBAY, my policy is I would rather bring an item to a
local hamfester even though I might not get "top dollar" es give
a local ham a chance for a better price than ebay, es at the same
time, I don`t have to bother with shipping, especially with the heavier
items.

Anyway, enough of my "ramblings" Larry
                                     
                                     73, Rene, K1MVP :neutral:
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w8rca
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« Reply #34 on: February 21, 2005, 03:14:59 PM »

I've bought high and sold low...I've bought low and sold high...and luckily never gotten a sharp stick in the eye. Buying and selling has always been a great part of the hobby for me. Hamfesters have always been more fun than ebay........Greg W8RCA
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K1MVP
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« Reply #35 on: February 21, 2005, 03:24:13 PM »

WD8BIL,
 Bud,
 Sounds like a very good price ur asking for a Viking 2 with VFO.
 I sold (at hosstraders) last year a real "clean" Viking 1, with the
 122 VFO, a new spare 4D32 tube and a JT-30 mike for $175.00
 So I think the pricing could be considered very  "reasonable" for ur
 Viking 2.
                               
                                 73, K1MVP :neutral:

 p.s., I wish now I had kept the VFO(the122) for my homebrew 6146
        xmtr.(oh well maybe I can another one) "reasonable" of course,hi.
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