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« on: February 07, 2013, 09:24:42 AM »

I just re-installed the transformers and chokes back into a Gates BC-1G transmitter that I recently obtained. I can't lift the HV transformer at all, and I can just barely lift the modulation choke. Does anyone know what these things weight? I'm curious.

Bobby Dipole, ND9B (old and out of shape)
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« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2013, 10:35:23 AM »

I just re-installed the transformers and chokes back into a Gates BC-1G transmitter that I recently obtained. I can't lift the HV transformer at all, and I can just barely lift the modulation choke. Does anyone know what these things weight? I'm curious.

Bobby Dipole, ND9B (old and out of shape)

What does the iron weigh?.....PLENTY,  that's only an estimate....It could be more...
The mod choke is the smallest...Maybe 40 lbs .. the plate transformer should go around 80 or 90 lbs.  The swinging choke about the same or more...The low voltage transformer is small by comparison but the filament transformer is prolly around 30 35 lbs..    Just don't hurt yourself moving that stuff around...

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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2013, 06:57:54 PM »

The plate transformer in the BC1H is 86 lbs and the DC choke is 40. The modulation transformer is 52 and the reactor is 41 lbs. I just weighed 'em. The BC1H was the last 1 kW plate modulated by Gates/Harris, and was a value-engineered version of the big G. So I would suspect they weigh more.
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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2013, 07:00:24 PM »

Ever lug something heavy around and can't walk the next day?
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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2013, 07:28:29 PM »

Or bend over to tie your shoes?

Can't remember the designation on the UTC transformer WA2PJP & I threw up into the back of his truck when he was here in October, but it was around 2 feet long and had to be a couple hunnert pounds. I was feelin' feeble for days.

**found the original thread in QSO, it's a CG-309 and probably closer to 18 inches than two feet. Still heavy! The rest is Dahl & Gates iron out of a BC1-T.


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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2013, 10:31:01 PM »

I think I have one of those 309s. I had to haul it up stairs out of a basement of a SK, using a hand dolly. Steel toed shoes required. It is a hunk of iron.
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« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2013, 09:30:50 AM »

I think I have one of those 309s. I had to haul it up stairs out of a basement of a SK, using a hand dolly. Steel toed shoes required. It is a hunk of iron.

I have a 309 as well and its the heavies piece of iron around here.  I have it slated for the plate iron with a pair of 4-1000 modulated by a pair.  Its too nice of a transformer not to have current going through it! 

I  used an engine crane lift when I got it from its previous owner to put it in the back of the truck.

Joe, GMS
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« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2013, 06:03:26 PM »

I found that I didn't have a 309, it was a CG307, the 80 lb little brother to the 309. 300 mA instead of 1 Amp I believe. That CG309 beats all!
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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2013, 07:49:34 PM »

I believe that the plate iron in my BC-1J is 103 lbs.
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« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2013, 10:06:28 PM »

I found that I didn't have a 309, it was a CG307, the 80 lb little brother to the 309. 300 mA instead of 1 Amp I believe. That CG309 beats all!

I think one of the guys here has the 307, a bit stubbier looking. I loved that 309, paid $250 to get a HB supply from a fellow well over a decade ago just to get the transformer for a 'future' project. When it became clear that the project might still be years away and my buddy Joe/WA2PJP mentioned he needed one for his big HB project, I gave it to him to get it back in service. As Mr GMS sez, it's too cool of a transformer not to have electrons playing inside.  Smiley

Hope I can find another when the day does come!
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« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2013, 10:34:20 PM »

My 309 look alike (custom unit but different dimensions than the 309) weighs in at 180 pounds.
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« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2013, 09:32:59 AM »

I found that I didn't have a 309, it was a CG307, the 80 lb little brother to the 309. 300 mA instead of 1 Amp I believe. That CG309 beats all!

I have a CG308. It's midway between the 307 and the 309. Same voltages, but 500ma.

Weighs 125 lbs, so it's no problem for two guys to lift.

I'm not taking it up any stairs, however.

It does a great job of anchoring my transformer shelving unit to the garage floor.

Dave
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