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« on: March 24, 2012, 07:59:13 PM »

I got my softrock ensemble II RX working (mostly) thanks to a lot of help from forum members...I am using HDSDR (WinRad)..I think I have a soft ware problem  now...The RX recieves a small portion of the HF spectrum....I don't know which portion, but it is a chunk of a CW band as I can tune around in this portion and pick out a couple amateur CW stations...Doesn't matter what the screen says the freq is, the RX stays on this same portion of the spectrum...The radio will not switch bands...I read in the instructions that a pc of software called ExtIO_Si570 controls the frequency setting of the ensemble RX over the USB port..The instructions say to "place the ExtIO in the same directory as the WinRad exe program...I downloaded the ExtIO and then did a drag and drop of the file to the WinRad file...But I still have no freq control....Does drag and drop work like that?  How do I get the extIO in the same directory as the WinRad file?.....Any help would be appreciated.....Steve


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« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2012, 08:14:08 PM »

http://www.pe0fko.nl/ExtIO_Si570/

If you have not seen this page, see if it helps.
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« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2012, 08:23:55 PM »

Thanks Bill...I downloaded the extIO file from that page but I am unsure how to get it into the same directory as WinRad..I don't think drag and drop worked...
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« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2012, 10:48:40 PM »

right click mouse on file select copy then go to the folder where  you want it.
Open folder right click and select paste. Sounds like the 570 is sitting at some default frequency.
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« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2012, 10:59:42 PM »

Look in the folder..
Is the file there?  then it worked..

However, it isn't quite as simple as JUST putting the file there.

You need to select that in the HSDR or Winrad software.

Go to OPTIONS > SELECT INPUT .. select the ExtIo  .dll file


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« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2012, 07:09:25 AM »

you may want to go to the control panel and remove EXTIo.
EXTIo is a download from the internet? From the maker of your SDR??

Any way donwload it again reinstall. When the screens come up to tell the software where to install, type in the path to the WINRAD folder.

KF1Z also has a good suggestion but the settings and registry are not going to be happy. Remove the EXTIo and reinstall to the proper folder.
I'm guessing EXTIo is the driver for the USB port to talk to the SDR??

Your SDR will not operate using FLEX Power SDR???........googling seems to be problems with the USB driver to work with the FLEX power SDR

Sometimes you must install everything (software/drivers) first THEN connect the hardware after. The computer will configure the magic part.
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« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2012, 09:05:47 AM »

This is not a windows install program .

Simply put it into the Winrad or HDSDR program folder.

And select that .dll as the input in the program.


Yes power sdr will run it, but you STILL need that .dll in the program folder to
operate the Si570 LO.

Registry settings are irrelavent.
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« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2012, 06:47:33 AM »

Ok Steve
I'm getting on track, a little.
Did you extract the extIO DLL file? It may have been zipped and needs to extract to the WINRAD folder for your SDR. (Winrad or HPSDR)
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« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2012, 10:03:34 AM »

Ok ...I don't have it working yet...I have  HDSDR ,(now called WinRad?)program on the C: drive ...I put Extio in that file.... I got the extio file from the pe0xxx page .IT is the recommended source for the extIO...I put lisusb.dll in that file...I can see them in there when I look at the HDSDR file...
   Bruce , You said to select that dll file as the input to that program...Does that mean it has to be first in line on the list of program contents?  It is not now.
   Fred You asked if I unzipped the extIO file....I don't know...How can I tell?
  I have tried the flex software and got nothing...I uninstalled it...   Raining here today so I will be in the shack...  Thanks guys.....Steve
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« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2012, 12:39:00 PM »

Give me the link,
And tell me exactly what you downloaded...

I just looked at the link given above....

All I see is a configuration tool download..
Which I think will be handy.
BUT, you RUN that file... don't move it anywhere.

I BELIEVE that it puts the .dll file where it needs to be...

I am going to try in now, even though I don't have a softrock, I should be able to tell what it does....

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« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2012, 12:52:43 PM »

Ok, I see now...

I am assuming you downloaded "CFGSR" from http://www.pe0fko.nl/ExtIO_Si570/   ?

After downloading that file, you must RUN it, to install CFGSR on your system.

After that's done,
 you must go into the folder in C:\Program Files (x86)\CFGSR\ExtIO_Si570

In that folder is the file named ExtIO_Si570.dll

Copy or drag and drdop that file into the Winrad or HDSDR folder at:

C:\Program Files (x86)\HDSDR   or C:\Program Files (x86)\winrad   whichever you've got.

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« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2012, 11:16:22 AM »

Stay with us Steve, You are almost there. It seems a little daunting with these computer terms like RUN, EXTRACT, copy paste..........remember....Google is your friend. Whatever you are thinking just type it in Google and read the results. Someone else is going through the same thing.
We will be reading about your success soon

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« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2012, 12:09:28 PM »

Stay with us Steve, You are almost there. It seems a little daunting with these computer terms like RUN, EXTRACT, copy paste..........remember....Google is your friend. Whatever you are thinking just type it in Google and read the results. Someone else is going through the same thing.
We will be reading about your success soon

fred


Thanks Fred...I had to back away for a while...I managed to get the HDSDR files so messed up I couldn't get anything to work...so I am taking a break...I am going to uninstall all of it and start over....I still have a problem message that "windows does not recognize the USB device" when I plug the softrock usb cord in.. and I'm "missing libusb0.dll"     I have just about worn out the google key on my machine trying to educate myself...I'm not about to give up..We have a day of good weather here before a 3 day bout of rain is supposed to move in, so I will be outside today and go after the softrock again when the wx turns wet...Thanks for the encouragement...I'm having fun....Steve
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« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2012, 06:58:07 PM »

Rain started early...Bruce, (or anyone else)How do I capture the image of the winrad file contents so I can post it and show you guys what is in there.Huh
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« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2012, 08:00:03 PM »

Rain started early...Bruce, (or anyone else)How do I capture the image of the winrad file contents so I can post it and show you guys what is in there.Huh

There is a way...  with the "print Scr" key.... need to use either Alt+ print scr, or something like that

But with Win7, I've never figured it out.

I used a screen capture dialog with my photo software...



There is only 3 files in the Winrad folder

Winrad.exe
WinRadPX.dll
ExtIO_Si570.dll  ( once you copy it there)

That's it

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« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2012, 08:55:35 PM »

I may have to make some adjustments...After reading Pe0fko instructions, and following what I thought I needed. I wound up with 8 files in there...    I put in libusb0.dll to get winrad to open because it wouldn't open and I got a message to that effect...
             
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« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2012, 02:16:51 PM »

OK...I reloaded HDSDR and the ExtIO and the liusb0.dll and the softrock receives on one band (I can't tell which one)  With HDSDR running, I go to OPTIONS, "select input" and I'm supposed to see "ExtIO" or "softrock" and be able to click on one of those but I don't see either of those ...I see "wav file" or "sound card" and one other....I have the sound card configured correctly, I have the HDSDR file set up correctly but....
   It seems like I have no control of the Si570..won't change bands...The numbers on the screen change but the rx stays on the same freq....  I remain confused..Steve
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« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2012, 02:30:14 PM »

go to http://www.pe0fko.nl/SR-V9-Si570/index.shtml#install

get the driver zip file, and follow the instructions for Windows 7 (64 bits).

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« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2012, 03:54:16 PM »



Can you list the filenames WITH extensions that are in the winrad program folder? (C:\Program Files (x86)\winrad)



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« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2012, 04:00:07 PM »

I can't get windows 7 to install the driver (Pe0fko) for my "unknown device"..When I go to device drivers and update the driver for the unknown device..and refer it to the pe0fko driver,  windows says "can't install because of error"( code 43)..
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« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2012, 04:10:50 PM »

If you are trying to install the drivers from that zipfile mentioned...

remember with this type of driver NEVER let windows do it automatically.

you must choose the driver manually or it will not work

using hdwwiz is the easy way


Getting an "unknown device" could mean the firmware in the pic is either not there or currupt...
COULD mean that.... not that it IS

Usually windows will know what the device is, even if the drivers aren't loaded yet
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« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2012, 04:36:27 PM »

Bruce... This is what I see;
PE0FKO-USB Driver 1.2.5.0
ExtIO-Si570.dll
HDSDR
hdsdr_eula
HDSDR_install
hdsdr_keyboard shortcuts
HDSDR_Release notes
Libusb0.dll
unis000.dat
uninis000
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« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2012, 04:45:50 PM »

Trust us the learning curve sucks.
Take notes because you will forget
It will work then you will be happy
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« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2012, 04:51:21 PM »

Trust us the learning curve sucks.
Take notes because you will forget
It will work then you will be happy
Thanks for the encouragement...I'm not pissed off yet..The reading I have done suggests that there is no shortage of problems getting this going...
  Yes taking notes is a good thing...way too easy to forget what I've done so far

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« Reply #24 on: March 28, 2012, 04:54:16 PM »

been there.
Good thing a smart guy steps up and sets you straight.
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