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« on: May 15, 2011, 01:38:17 PM »

Hello AM Lovers,
We did already some tests on 40 mtrs in AM.
F6AQK, PE1BIW, PA3HCO and 9H1ES have been on 7190 khz.
Just after 06.00 hour by us....
But around 7180 a very big signal, max. S8.
It souding like RTTY.... no reception possible!
And on 7190 I heard a broadcast station, but very weak....

I were wondering about the big signals.
F6AQK, S9 +30
9H1ES, S8
PA3HCO and PE1BIW, S1

Today, Sunday 15 th, again AM on 7190.
I (PE1MPH) had a qso with 9H1ES.
But he could not heard me good...
Maybe my power were to low, 20 Watts.
I heard Fortunato good, max. S8.

Pity again the freq. were not clean....
Perhaps, we go a little up.
Around 7193 khz or we must lower then 7160 khz.

We try and listen again to find a clear freq. on 40 mtrs. Grin

Greetings,

Henk / PE1MPH
Dokkum / The Netherlands
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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2011, 02:09:12 PM »

Will you be one 7193 this weekend (Saturday or Sunday mornings)? I will listen for you and call if I hear anything.
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« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2011, 08:57:20 AM »

Will you be one 7193 this weekend (Saturday or Sunday mornings)? I will listen for you and call if I hear anything.

Oke!
We can try, if you hear us... Grin

Greetings,

Henk / PE1MPH
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« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2011, 12:35:00 PM »

A lot of us will be at Dayton this weekend, but keep on trying. 7193 might work better than 7160, since that frequency is wiped out less often by the Ethiopian jamming stations.  We do get interference from the LSB of Sudanese broadcaster on 7200.0 kc/s. Also, maybe less SSB QRM at the high end of the 7.0-7.2 segment.
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« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2011, 03:54:47 PM »

A lot of us will be at Dayton this weekend, but keep on trying. 7193 might work better than 7160, since that frequency is wiped out less often by the Ethiopian jamming stations.  We do get interference from the LSB of Sudanese broadcaster on 7200.0 kc/s. Also, maybe less SSB QRM at the high end of the 7.0-7.2 segment.

Thanks Don....
We hope there is next weekend no contest.
If all goes oke, there are AM Lovers around 7193 on air!
Just after 6 o'clock by us.... Grin

Often Don, I hear around 7160/7165 a broadcaster...

Greetings,

Henk
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« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2011, 09:14:15 PM »

Will have to be before 0700 Zulu

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Every early morning, there they are, the WAS and DX ssb net on 7.190 Mhz. At 2 or 3 am my time. This will make it VERY difficult to run AM DX here.  However, there is usually a lot of unused space down between 7.125 and 7.140 Mhz. 


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« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2011, 10:05:56 PM »

That's why someone should petition the FCC to expand the phone band at least down to 7100.  It seems that somebody has a  claim on practically every spot of that measly 75 kc/s of phone spectrum we have in common with Regions 1 and 3, while 7100-7125 usually lies fallow throughout the hours of darkness in N. America.

But any petition needs to be well thought out with plenty of documentation for any justifications presented to the Commission. The CW crowd is vehemently opposed to any further incursion of phone privileges into the existing "reserved" spectrum, regardless of the fact that they lightly use it.
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« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2011, 11:13:47 PM »

Don, I had a feeling you would chime in about the space below 7.125 Mhz as you have stated this case a few times in the past and it is a solid one in my estimation.  I would get behind the cause and add my signature to any petition if that's how it works.  I'm not much of a writer of legalese material however.  

Who amoung us will champion this effort?
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« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2011, 06:09:42 AM »

Don, I had a feeling you would chime in about the space below 7.125 Mhz as you have stated this case a few times in the past and it is a solid one in my estimation.  I would get behind the cause and add my signature to any petition if that's how it works.  I'm not much of a writer of legalese material however.  

Who amoung us will champion this effort?

I nominate the only guy who has brought this up many, many, uhh, many times in this forum and on qrz.com ... K4KYV!

Anyone want to second the motion ?   Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2011, 01:27:22 PM »

Will have to be before 0700 Zulu
http://hhhnet.net/  
Every early morning, there they are, the WAS and DX ssb net on 7.190 Mhz. At 2 or 3 am my time. This will make it VERY difficult to run AM DX here.  However, there is usually a lot of unused space down between 7.125 and 7.140 Mhz. 
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John,

On 7190 khz I heard often a broadcast station?!
Not strong, but readable...
We can 'monitoring' early mornings (by us!) between 7125 - 7140 khz.
Maybe there is a clean freq. for AM!

Greetings,

Henk, Pe1MPH
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« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2011, 11:35:20 PM »


I'm listening on 7140.000 right now and will be monitoring for the next hour...

Anyone interested give me a call, AM or Silly Sideband; will respond if I hear you...

I have a CW beacon on line that sends "QRA W3GL" periodically.

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« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2011, 11:53:32 PM »


I'm listening on 7140.000 right now and will be monitoring for the next hour...

Anyone interested give me a call, AM or Silly Sideband; will respond if I hear you...

I have a CW beacon on line that sends "QRA W3GL" periodically.


Hello!
Now, 05.50 by me, strong ssb around 7138!
We try about a few minutes around 7193.
On 7193 just F6AQK and me, on 7190 I hear 9H1ES calling.
Now F6AQK and PE1BIW trying 7170, but evenso weak signals...
But both weak signals.... Angry

Greetings,


PE1MPH
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« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2011, 01:39:59 AM »

Hello AM Lovers,

This morning bad conditions on 40 mtrs!
Here the resuls.

7193 F6AQK, Jean, max. S7, but free on freq.

7190 9H1ES, Fortunato, max. S5, qrm from ssb station
7190 Huh? another AM station, maybe talking with Fortunato

7170 F6AQK, Jean, max. S8, again free on freq.
7170 PE1BIW, Martin, only a few words I could hear.

On 7190 and 7175 many ssb stations, evenso from the usa.
And the same around 7140 khz.

I think conditions were this morning very bad! Sad
Hopefull a next time better....


Greetings,

Henk
PE1MPH
Dokkum, The Netherlands
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« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2011, 11:49:26 PM »

Hello,
Now, 05.45 hour by me, I hear"

+/- 7186 very strong digitale mode station, S9+
7175 strong broadcast station, Arabic?, S9+10

On 7193: I hear F6AQK calling, but weak signal, S5.

But on: Receivers on the Web RX320 - New York
+/- 06/20 hour by me.
I heard Jean F6AQK talking, pity ssb near freq. there...


Greetings,

Henk / pe1mph

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« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2011, 09:21:53 PM »

 I been testing on 7.290 at 1 am been clear but hear no one here
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« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2011, 09:36:16 PM »

I been testing on 7.290 at 1 am been clear but hear no one here

I can try to be on 7.290 in the mornings that I am not working.  What time zone 1am?  I'm in central time.  I'll be off Monday night (Tuesday morning).

BTW,  This thread is technically about N.A. to Europe and I don't believe Europeans can use above 7.200 Mhz on 40.

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« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2011, 10:25:06 PM »

i'm in eastarn time zone i'm in pa
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« Reply #17 on: May 28, 2011, 10:45:54 PM »

Tues morning 1am Eastern .... Midnight Monday night for me...I be on 7.290 am if all works out.  I know LA to PA is very doable on 40 at that time.  Others should feel free to join in too!
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« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2011, 12:04:06 AM »

Tues morning 1am Eastern .... Midnight Monday night for me...I be on 7.290 am if all works out.  I know LA to PA is very doable on 40 at that time.  Others should feel free to join in too!

Oke, but 7290 is not a clear freq. in Holland.
Now on 7190: 9H1ES, F6AQK and PE1BIW.
But conditions poor....?

Greetings,

Henk / PE1MPH
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« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2011, 03:40:17 AM »

hello  John 5/31/11 that was me on 7.290 you was doing well here 20 over at times then down to 5 but in the clear sorry bout your noise but i copyed you 100% kx5jt from kb3rdt lol!
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« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2011, 04:30:21 AM »

hello  John 5/31/11 that was me on 7.290 you was doing well here 20 over at times then down to 5 but in the clear sorry bout your noise but i copyed you 100% kx5jt from kb3rdt lol!

Darn okay.  My noise is bouncing from 7 to 9 here.  I'll have to give it another try this weekend when I'm off work again.
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« Reply #21 on: June 02, 2011, 03:35:20 AM »

sounds good long as static crashes not there i'm game
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« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2011, 03:54:03 PM »

I am new to this forum. However, I have been operating AM for many years. Use
max. power allowed in US, 375 watts carrier. I am located in Houston, Tx.
Working into Europe on 40M is simple from here. I use a 3 element vertical
parasitic array firing NE.
Traditionally, before the recent 40M band changes everyone SSB and AM
operated split frequency.  We held regular schedules between US and So. Africa.
on 40M operating split. Seems to me that US operators could operate around 7290
and EU stations operate below 7100. Maybe I am out of date but that should work.
What do you all think.
73,
John, AA5T
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« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2011, 04:33:23 PM »

Sure, split would work and could be employed, if needed. We've already made some EU-to-USA contact on simplex AM in the past two years. Since the broadcast stations have mostly vacated below 7200, the only issue is finding a clear frequency among the USA SSB stations.

You are correct, the propagation is there for contacts to EU. With your antenna system, you should do very well. If the T-storms are not bad this weekend, I will get on 40 and call CQ. I'll post the freq(s) here.
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« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2011, 06:31:46 PM »

OK Steve,
I saw your inverted delta loops on QRZ. Very nice I used that antenna for years
working So. Africa. Fed in an upper corner and 180Deg out of phase.
Then I lived in Dallas. They don't work down here. Ground conductivity is much
greater here. This is vertical country, took years to learn that.
Working simplex on 40 M is tough. SSB all over 7.125 to 7.200. Just like 14.286,
14.285 is the Greek net and 14.287 is the Veteran's net. On 40m we have the
stations south of the border, they run 5KW and happily though they stick pretty
much to 7.125 to 7.130.
I can't change frequency to easily. I usually use a Globe King 500A, crystal control.
For 40M I have 7.285, 7.290, 7.295. Don't mind ordering some more if the EU folks
want to establish some sort of regular contact.
I am retired, which means that I am working more now. To me Friday evenings are best. Sunset here is at 8:25 PM CDT this time of year. Band opens to EU and NE about about that time. During the winter I can hear EU around 4PM CT.
73,
John
 
 
 
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