FUEL $$$ WTF

[w3jn]

You obviously weren't doing it right.  Sidestep that clutch, man 

[The Slab Bacon]

You obviously weren't doing it right.  Sidestep that clutch, man 

Been there, done that!! Used to pop the glovebox open and launch all of it's contents into the lap of whoever was sitting in the passenger seat

[WA3VJB]

I used to get 3,000 miles out of the clutch in my 340 'Cuda.

Day-um !

Twice we have squeezed a quarter million miles out of the original clutch in cars we bought new.

Sold a 90 Corolla with 240,000 mi, clutch still hi hi FB

Sold a 95 Camry with 260,000 mi, also hi hi FB clutch OM.

Of course, neither of these cars would launch your lunch from the console to the backseat on takeoff.

But at 30mpg, it's times like this they're good commuter cars.

[The Slab Bacon]

Paid 3.899 today for reglah. That does make driving your Hot Rod a special (and costly) treat   

[WA3VJB]

Dood, I run a mix of Cam2 in the Electramobile.

Hate to see what THAT's up to, next time I tank up.

http://www.bazellracefuels.com/racingfuels.htm#CAM%202

[Ralph W3GL]

   Clutch, what's that?

   A little timing, get the revs correct  and flip the lever when right and you
   don't need no stinking clutch peddle...

   My old '37 Dodge worked fine like that but of course it took some practice
   and the shifter might have had a tooth or two end up in the housing sump...
    

[KB2WIG]

P,

Where can one buy that cheep gas??

klc

[WA3VJB]

Picture is from early March, true, but I got straight gas (87) for 3.83 yesterday, not too far off.

[W2VW]

You obviously weren't doing it right.  Sidestep that clutch, man 

That's exactly what I was doing. Just a whole lot : )

[WA1GFZ]

I just paid 4.19 for 89 juice yesterday.
Poor oil companies need a tax break.

[K1JJ]

I just paid 4.19 for 89 juice yesterday.
Poor oil companies need a tax break.

You need 89 in that truck? 

I've always used 87 for everything.  There was a time when I added a water injection kit to keep the detonation down and advance the timing some more. Worked great.

See ya at Nearfest Fri/Sat, OM.

T

[WQ9E]

In many cases, 89 octane is reached by blending ethanol with 87 octane.  Since alcohol BTU content is lower you also lose MPG in the bargain so stay away from higher octane unless you have to use it.

The 3.6 V6 in my Cadillac CT has a 11.3 to 1 compression ratio and runs fine on the recommended 87 octane regular gas courtesy of the direct fuel injection system.  The manual cautions that the standard port injected version (with 10.2 compression) may require 89 octane under some conditions. 

Unfortunately in IL it is very difficult to find even 87 octane that hasn't been cut with ethanol, there is one local station that still has it.  Diesel here also contains an unknown amount of bio between 9-21% but that is less bothersome than ethanol and does have some real benefit for the injection system (as long as it isn't really cold).

With fuel being diluted with "food products" I hope that the dairy guy doesn't get revenge and start dumping used motor oil in my 2% milk

[K5UJ]

Day or two ago saw $4.29 here for 87.  But, a few miles west on the other side of town found 7-11 selling 87 for $4.03.
I went inside and handed over all  the cash I had on me which came to $47 and said put all that on twelve outside and it got me up to 3/4 of a full tank.  I hadn't planned on doing that but I figured I may not see $4.03 again for awhile.

[The Slab Bacon]

In many cases, 89 octane is reached by blending ethanol with 87 octane.  Since alcohol BTU content is lower you also lose MPG in the bargain so stay away from higher octane unless you have to use it.

Interesting   I wonder if that is area specific?? My Ranger gets noticably better mileage on 89 than it does with the 87. Oftimes enough to warrant the extra cost.

[WQ9E]

Interesting   I wonder if that is area specific?? My Ranger gets noticably better mileage on 89 than it does with the 87. Oftimes enough to warrant the extra cost.

I wonder if your Ranger needs 89 to avoid retarded timing (via an electronic knock sensor)?  Maybe some carbon buildup?  Not all 87 octane is pure gas, here is a link to a group that lists ethanol free stations but it is user built so check before you fill:  http://pure-gas.org/index.jsp

The use of ethanol to increase octane has been common throughout the midwest region for quite awhile, probably strongly correlated with the corn/ethanol lobby    

For awhile it was also an EPA listed oxygenate to meet specific air region/city air quality requirements but I think that has ended.  Of course the latest tomfoolery is the move to increase ethanol content from 10 to 15%.  Think of it as the EPA version of BPL, don't let science get in the way of revenue.

[K6JEK]

$4.29 regular $4.69 for super.  I drove through San Francisco on my way up north today and those were the prices. My understanding is that's down from the peak there.  When I was a kid, we called the high octane stuff ethyl.  I wonder what that was about.

[W7TFO]

From the addition of Tetra-Ethyl Lead.

73DG

[The Slab Bacon]

Rodger,
           We get stuck with that oxygenated szht around here during the summer.
What crap!! There is a noticable drop in fuel economy with that junk! ! ! ! !

"This fuel has been oxygenated to reduce emissions" B.S.! ! ! ! ! It has been oxygenated to reduce the thickness of your wallet!!

[WA1GFZ]

I found 89 gives me better mileage and less cents per mile. Also runs better.
91 runs even better but costs more cents per mile so 89 gives me best economy.

[The Slab Bacon]

I found 89 gives me better mileage and less cents per mile. Also runs better.
91 runs even better but costs more cents per mile so 89 gives me best economy.

That has pretty much been the case here as well.

[K5UJ]

If you go to Iowa you find the 89 is 10 to 20 cents less / gallon than the 87.   turns out it is subsidized -- has something to do with corn gasohol.  Lotta corn in Iowa.

[The Slab Bacon]

If you go to Iowa you find the 89 is 10 to 20 cents less / gallon than the 87.   turns out it is subsidized -- has something to do with corn gasohol.  Lotta corn in Iowa.

A little far to drive, just for a fillup   

[WD8BIL]

$3.99 for 87 this morning in Northern Ohio.
We got us an ol' fashion gas war going on. None of the stations wanna be the first to put $4.00 on 87.

[w3jn]

The 3.6 V6 in my Cadillac CT has a 11.3 to 1 compression ratio and runs fine on the recommended 87 octane regular gas courtesy of the direct fuel injection system.  The manual cautions that the standard port injected version (with 10.2 compression) may require 89 octane under some conditions.  

What kind of gas mileage do you get with your CTS, Rodger?  Last trip I took to Delphi (part highway, part windy mountain road) I got about 30 MPG with mine; 3.6L/6 speed manual.  With $9.50/gal gas here I don't drive the Land Rover much  

[W2XR]

$3.99 for 87 this morning in Northern Ohio.
We got us an ol' fashion gas war going on. None of the stations wanna be the first to put $4.00 on 87.

I paid $4.11/gallon this morning for 87 octane here on Long Island, Buddly. And that is for cash. My wife and I stopped using the credit card for gasoline purchases a few months ago, as the filling stations in this area charge an extra $0.10/gallon for credit card sales. Ten cents/gallon adds up over time, and I won't give the service station the satisfaction of making an extra dime per gallon off of me just for a credit card transaction.

And I passed by one station after filling up that was charging $4.59/gallon for 87 octane fuel. My guess is that the filling station where I gassed up today will be charging $4.59 for 87 in the not too distant future.

It's still a bargain compared to paying $9.50/gallon in Greece. My guess is the Greeks tax the hell out of gasoline, especially considering the severe economic conditions they are currently experiencing.

73,

Bruce