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« on: March 11, 2011, 05:25:24 AM »

Tsunami warning has been issued for the west coast of the U.S.

Watching the action in Japan... numbing.
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« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2011, 05:36:34 AM »

eeegads what else is going to go wrong around here!!!
8.9 in Japan and they are very well prepared for that type of action there.
The Tsunami will be interesting to watch. They get stronger as they travel.

THe videos from various sources shows some scary stuff going on with the Tsunami and water flowing back into the land. 33 feet high as it amplifies.

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« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2011, 11:14:59 AM »

This video shows the brutal situation:


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/8375389/Massive-tsunami-hits-Japan-after-earthquake.html

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« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2011, 11:18:48 AM »

Been watching news footage, absolutely incredible. Waves of vehicles - cars, trucks, vans, buses - mixed in with boats and buildings, washing down what were streets and spilling over highways along the shore as the water recedes. Very awe-inspiring, to say the least.

There's also some footage shot from an airport showing the water as it envelopes the runways, taxiways, then ramps, washing away baggage carts and other vehicles. No planes visible, so they must have gotten them outta there fast.
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« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2011, 02:45:11 PM »

God bless those people. The video is amazing.
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« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2011, 07:49:07 PM »

I noticed that the Japanese really like white vehicles for some reason. Other videos aside from the horrible situation show all street to be very clean in their cities. There must be a lot of pride of ones living space over there. I visited Japan back in 1960 and always wanted to go back. It's probably a US friendly place to visit where you may walk around without fearing for your life.
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« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2011, 08:44:25 PM »

I would think that gasoline is very expensive in Japan.  I am surprised to see the predominance of SUV's like in the U.S.  I guess all of the Corollas come here.

I just sent an email to a ham friend/former colleague in Yokohama City which is on the southwest coast of Tokyo Bay.  Tokyo is on the northeast coast of Tokyo Bay.  I will just have to wait and see what transpires.  That region is in the tsunami warning area.

No cable TV service here.  I have been watching the over-the-air HDTV today.  I found the best coverage by the Hispanic channel Univision this morning after the morning peak.  Much better coverage than the main 3 U.S. networks.  The main 3 went back to normal morning programming.  This afternoon and evening I have been watching NHK TV coverage also very good.  Their female commentator is excellent;  it's refreshing to see a knowledgeable, intelligent person talking long periods of time without other "experts".

I think that this disaster is going to be quite an upset to the electric power, communications and food supply both short term and for a very long time.
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« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2011, 09:42:05 PM »

Since the islands are so densely populated, I wonder how the final casualty toll will compare with the big one in 2004 in Thailand.

Also, whenever a big one hits, watch out.  Expect another one, somewhere else in a distant corner of the world, to hit within a few days or weeks.
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« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2011, 11:25:55 AM »

Already did. Tonga had one yesterday/today, as did Mexico and Fiji. There was even a 4.4 in the Gulf of California and Hawaii had a small one.
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« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2011, 12:55:20 PM »

some news sources are stating Japan moved by 8 feet.  The same sources are stating the earths axis or tilt was altered by 4 inches due to this powerful quake.
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« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2011, 12:55:56 PM »

New Zealand had a magnitude-6.3 earthquake on 2/22/11
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« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2011, 02:31:41 PM »

NHK World reported that one observatory said it's position moved 4 meters west (I've also heard east).

I received an email back from my friend in Yokohama City.  He did not have any damage, no broken dishes, no fallen books.  The cellphone and landline use was limited for a while  He is concerned for the northern prefectures though.
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« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2011, 06:53:08 PM »

The videos of the actual shaking proves how prepared they are for events like this. The electric stayed on....................well..............they are having problems containing the nuclear power plant from a meltdown. It's too bad that such a powerful source for electricity is so dangerous when things go wrong.

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« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2011, 08:44:18 PM »

 Shocked HOPFULY THEY WILL GET THOSE REACTORS UNDER CONTROL Huh
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« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2011, 12:26:01 AM »


before & after - use the center blue slider...


http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/03/13/world/asia/satellite-photos-japan-before-and-after-tsunami.html?hp
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« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2011, 01:35:55 AM »

I know a guy working for JPARC, a new particle accelerator at Tokai, just being commissioned to full power. It was built near the shore. All internet to there is dead now, and I can't get through except one town website that lists emergency shelters. NHK broadcast network there has the best coverage by far, superior to anything stateside of course. Its really tragic.
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« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2011, 11:32:23 AM »

Interesting on NBC this morning they said there were no reports of looters.
I bet it would be different if there was a quake in LA.
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« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2011, 11:55:33 AM »

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Interesting on NBC this morning they said there were no reports of looters.
I bet it would be different if there was a quake in LA.


I was at Dayton and got to talking to a Japanese ham. He owned a robotics company and was vely wealthy.  He said the basic reason there is less crime in JA is cuz of the homogenous culture - people of the same blood origin. He felt the melting pot of the USA was a different story - some people did not respect cultures different from theirs.

The Japanese really are a wonderful people and have a culture that emphacizes family, honor and respect. I hope five years from now this terrible event is just a faint memory.

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« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2011, 12:15:01 PM »

Shocked HOPFULY THEY WILL GET THOSE REACTORS UNDER CONTROL Huh

Excellent article here that addresses this:

Japan Does Not Face Another Chernobyl
The containment structures appear to be working, and the latest reactor designs aren't vulnerable to the coolant problem at issue here.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704893604576198421680697248.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop
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« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2011, 01:35:15 PM »

if only them reactors in Japan would read this hack's op-ed piece in the WSJ
and behave themselves instead of blowing up one after the other and exposing
their rods  Tongue
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« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2011, 07:26:09 PM »

if only them reactors in Japan would read this hack's op-ed piece in the WSJ
and behave themselves instead of blowing up one after the other and exposing
their rods  Tongue

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« Reply #21 on: March 14, 2011, 08:48:43 PM »


The Japanese really are a wonderful people and have a culture that emphacizes family, honor and respect. I hope five years from now this terrible event is just a faint memory.

Timing is everything.  Imagine how different the world would be to-day if this thing had blown in 1939 instead of 2011 - and how many more Japanese civilians would have still been alive in 1945.

But regardless of the outcome, I'm glad I don't have all my life savings invested in stock in the nuclear power industry.
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« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2011, 09:02:04 PM »

But regardless of the outcome, I'm glad I don't have all my life savings invested in stock in the nuclear power industry.

you and the rest of the free market that has shunned financing nuclear power
for 30+ years now.  The free-market has spoken !
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« Reply #23 on: March 14, 2011, 09:03:58 PM »

Not really. Nothing that regulated is a free market.
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« Reply #24 on: March 14, 2011, 09:39:00 PM »

Not really. Nothing that regulated is a free market.

afaik, there are no regulations on investors. And the regulations on nuclear
power plants are no different than those on other types of power generation
that do attract private investment.

The only way to build new nuclear power plants is through heavy federal
subsidy (of the same sort that built the existing nukes). That's a corruption
of the free market (which has spoken on this issue for decades now).
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