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« Reply #50 on: June 12, 2009, 03:09:46 PM »

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FORD, They will nickle dime you to death.........................

Alot depends on PM.
I'm driving my 3rd Ford pickup and all have gone >250K mi.
I know I've spent less on the last 2 than my neighbor has on his li'l TOYota.

Again, it's all in the preventive maintenence.
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« Reply #51 on: August 20, 2009, 10:11:53 PM »

FWIW, my son was driving the Crown Vic and he wasT-Boned on the right passenger door by a Ford Expedition at 30+ (maybe 40)MPH last weekend.

Both he and his girlfriend  walked away, the car was totaled.

Insurance paid off, and I bought him a 2004 ex- Colorado State Patrol Crown Vic today with the proceeds. 119,000 miles on it. This newer one has side airbags in the doors, a roll bar and an automatic fire-suppression system that fires off in the event of an impact. Also shuts off the fuel system. And it runs like a bat out of hell if you put your foot in it. A 2004 P71 Police package for $3400.

Eat your heart out, Volvo.

That 4,000# 20 MPG Police Crown VIc saved both his and girl friends life.
They would have been toast in a lightweight ricebox.

God bless.Thank you.

Pictures to follow.
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« Reply #52 on: August 20, 2009, 11:57:42 PM »

Wow. Glad everyone was OK fine. Gotta love the big metal.
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« Reply #53 on: August 21, 2009, 04:50:03 AM »

I thought if you barely touched them, they caught fire???

Seriously, glad everyone's OK, Bill. 
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« Reply #54 on: August 21, 2009, 06:53:39 AM »

Yeah boy, there IS a good sense of security in a hooptie like these. Glad they walked away from it, Bill.

I "somewhat" miss my 1987 Dodge Diplomat.
Only because it was a cool car to drive.

Still had the center radio tray, arrest cage, Kojack light, and some plastic cuffs. Missing the door handles in the back, hmm. And the lock-pullups, hmm.  Loved the remote trunk release, and the single key system.

Auction purchase price $350 with 71,000 in 1992.

Sold for $900 with 130,000 in 2008.



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« Reply #55 on: August 21, 2009, 09:04:08 AM »

<snip> Auction purchase price $350 with 71,000 in 1992.

Sold for $900 with 130,000 in 2008. <snip>

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« Reply #56 on: August 21, 2009, 10:25:02 AM »

I'll pass on a yuppie crap box and prefer a real car with a frame under it.
Or I will drive a truck with a real frame under it. Roads full of idiots
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« Reply #57 on: August 21, 2009, 10:43:43 AM »

LOL!

Most of the Colorado State Patrol cars are silver-gray Crown Vics with black trim like the one I bought. Denver cops have white ones.

When we first drove it home from Denver, we took I-25 for 50 miles. I was in the lead doing the speed limit in the right lane and my son was driving the cop car about 1/4 mile behind me.

Instead of the usual bunch of weaving jerks, people passed him s-l-o-w-l-y at no more than 5-10 MPH over the limit and used their turn signals before changing lanes in front or behind him. Incredible. The car idiot-proofed a large bubble of traffic around him. I could see in my rear-view that no one wanted to hang around him in traffic. Glad they left the black spotlight on the driver's door..

This newer Vic has a "Police Trunk Pack" in it, which is a large plastic box with dividers to hold equipment. Has a label stating that it's DuPont Kevlar, which I think is designed to deflect gun fire from the rear. There are also Kevlar blankets in the front doors which a cop can theoretically duck behind in a shootout.

Think I'll drive it the next time I visit Chicago...
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« Reply #58 on: August 21, 2009, 11:02:28 AM »

The car idiot-proofed a large bubble of traffic around him. I could see in my rear-view that no one wanted to hang around him in traffic. Glad they left the black spotlight on the driver's door..


"The car idiot-proofed a large bubble of traffic around him."   

HA!  That's a funny line and so true, Bill. 

I regret not picking up an auction Crown Vic after buying an '04 Pontiac Grand AM two years ago.   Better yet, I saw an all-black  Ford  "Intercepter" last month in the parking lot.   What a classy looking car that was. It had no chrome or trim of any kind, except for the Interceptor insigia. - like a Men in Black car. 

As for the idiot-proofed bubble, I have an old Boy Scout campaign hat that looks something like a state trooper's hat. I once wore it at Hosstraders. Once in a while I'll wear it while driving and watch the bubble form.  Hanging a uniform on the rear hook at the window would complete the effect... Grin


But there's nothing like your spotlight on the driver's door to cornvince everyone to stay away.

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« Reply #59 on: August 21, 2009, 11:06:52 AM »

Tom,
I saw the state is unloading a bunch of cars to save money maybe you can still get one. I liked the old ones with a 351 overhead cam.
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« Reply #60 on: August 21, 2009, 12:52:59 PM »

I bet Tom looks cute in a Boy Scout uniform...
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« Reply #61 on: August 21, 2009, 01:00:48 PM »

Nothing like a small antenna sticking up out of the trunk lid
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« Reply #62 on: August 21, 2009, 01:43:24 PM »

Couldn't get the first post to take -- I'm trying again

I am a satisfied owner of a Crown Vic...  It is a 2001.  It gets really good MPG (about 25 - 28).  It also handles well.  I was coming home one night and some drugged out @#% hung a 90 deg from my right side and stopped right in front of me.  I did a quick tweak of the steering wheel while laying on the breaks.  The ABS worked like a charm, I drove right around him no sweat. 

I'll never forget the dazed "deer in the headlights" look on the idiot.  The family was with me in the car -- they can attest that that maneuver should NEVER had worked -- but it did.

I'm looking at my FIRST repair at 108K miles.  A squeaky front end is probably either a dried out ball joint or tie rod end.  That's it for repairs.

Oh Yeah. Did I tell you the brakes work GREAT?

Al, Satisfied VIC owner


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« Reply #63 on: August 22, 2009, 12:35:41 AM »

I manufacture and install graphic packages for several counties and municipalities on their police vehicles and the majority are crown vics. 

Hopefully you're not the one responsible for this?



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« Reply #64 on: August 22, 2009, 10:51:58 AM »

Here's a pic of the new Crown Vic. Also a pic of one of the sheets of yellow Kevlar bulletproofing, this one attached to the cop toolbox in the trunk.
Same stuff is inside the doors. Maybe 3/8" thick.

I don't know what that stuff costs, but it's got to be pricey.


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« Reply #65 on: August 22, 2009, 03:03:11 PM »

Nice ride. I've always liked the blacked out grill look.
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« Reply #66 on: August 22, 2009, 04:05:10 PM »

Nothing like a land yacht! 
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« Reply #67 on: August 22, 2009, 08:52:35 PM »

 " Same stuff is inside the doors. Maybe 3/8" thick.

I don't know what that stuff costs, but it's got to be pricey. "

In the late 1990's, a 'pop in' kevlar door panel was around $1K. These things were  retrofitted, and placed inside the driver or passenger door.

This may be of interest..... not as much as the  UAV.


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« Reply #68 on: August 22, 2009, 11:27:21 PM »

WHY would you want to bulletproof a bus?
What IS that thing?
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« Reply #69 on: August 23, 2009, 01:22:52 AM »

You never saw "Stripes"Huh?
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« Reply #70 on: August 24, 2009, 12:32:30 AM »

I own a 1998 Crown Vic P71 and love it. they are very easy to modify for better handling and more power. the rear suspension is derived from an oval track sprint/modified design and is excellent. I have a few mods in mine- urethane suspension bushings, air lift bags with daul feed in the rear springs to fine tune the handling, Afco oval track gas shocks, some extra bars welded in to reinforce the frame, and urethane GM style body mounts to stiffen it more. I cut the entire front out of the cold air intake box (good for 10HP) and re-flashed the ECM with a Hypertech power programmer (+20 HP and 30ft lbs torque ), and put a road race alignment on the front end: -.5 degree camber, 1/8" (total for both wheels ) toe- out, +5 degrees caster. I also have a Ford Motorsport 3:55 rear end gear (standard on some P71 packages but not mine) and the superb Ford Motorsport limited slip differential, way better than stock P71 positraction.  i'm somewhere around 250-260Hp with the engine. the 2004
is near 270, with a better tranny and software in the ECM. I love the car. it's literally a 4000 pound Mustang, handles like Dale Earhardt in old #3, is King Kong strong, and reliable.  it also scares the crap out of the "insurgents"... Oh yes- Bill don't tell your son but I disabled the RPM and top speed limiter in my software package. I have PEGGED that 140 speedo. the car has an outstanding aero package, but you need to get the nose down, and the rear up a tad if you go much over 100 or front end lift is a problem.
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« Reply #71 on: August 24, 2009, 10:06:05 AM »

Thanks for interesting info. While I'm a traditionalist, I'm starting to really like the Ford modular engines. I think the 4.6 = the old 302, the 5.4 = the 351 and the 6.8 = the old bulletproof 460?

I was wondering about the high speeds and the tires, so I checked out the state-issued rubber on the thing.  Goodyear Eagle Ultra Grip GW2, all-season mud/snow. The big surprise is they're V speed rated, or 149 MPH. $136 a pop, which is a bargain for what they are.

A 149 MPH rated snow tire? Never would have believed it. No wonder the CSP buys them.
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« Reply #72 on: August 25, 2009, 11:12:15 PM »

Wonder how many Crown Vics ended up in the Kash for Klunkers scrap pile.

I heard that Russia has started its own "Rubles for Wrecks" program, somewhat modelled after ours.  But they only allow trade-ins for a Russian car, and people who live there know that Russian-made cars suck, so it hasn't exactly been a smashing success so far.
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