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« Reply #125 on: April 22, 2009, 07:33:43 PM »

Over the last 40 years we've transferred > $5T of wealth into US inner cities and what do we have to show for it? Just more of the same. If it doesn't work here why would you assume it will work there? Good intentions seldom guarantee desired results.

A thought on protecting US ships...

Since we apparently can't arm our mariners why not have a large pack of hungry German Shepherds on board? Pirates for lunch...git 'em!     

 



Your talking about one thing..money ..our trouble was swept overseas Brother....we need good working jobs here now alot of folks are giving up we need Confidence...it's a simple cycle begin a large mass movement of care to these people all infrastructure get the farmers geared up the productions factories geared up Food Textiles Millwork....there is good buisness in this idea of it would create so much more work that we so desperately need...it's so simple nobody understands it...

But I just try and explain my opinion...

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« Reply #126 on: April 22, 2009, 09:22:30 PM »

Hey Jay, we have something to show for it. Rich bankers and their little pawns like mayor eddy in hartford.
Just move to an international scale to increase profit margins.

We send a boat load of free food to starving people and they want to rip off the boat and sell it back to us. I think that is called biting the hand that feeds you.

Frank, You know you can turn shit into ice cream.
1. bury shit
2. makes green grass
3. feed green grass to cows
4. Cows produce milk
etc
I see it every year around here. Shit is spread and farmers are in the process of turning it under this week.
So maybe shit is a "kind" term. How about toxic waste

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« Reply #127 on: April 23, 2009, 08:15:03 AM »

Since we apparently can't arm our mariners why not have a large pack of hungry German Shepherds on board? Pirates for lunch...git 'em!     

Now that's the most practical approach I've heard yet!

Naaaaa............... alligators would be more practical. Much less maintenance and less "residue" to clean up afterwards!!  Grin Grin
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« Reply #128 on: April 23, 2009, 11:53:55 AM »

Slab

Figured the German Shepherds would at least develop a working relationship with the crew. Not so sure about gators. Agree on the less mess to clean up, though.

Thought it would have been a nice touch to let the three partially headless pirates rot on deck for a week and for the Navy to steam into port and deposit the stinking garbage at the pier. Might have deterred a few would be replacements. On second thought, Somali's are probably used to being around stinking garbage.     

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« Reply #129 on: April 25, 2009, 02:03:15 PM »

Pirates have Timesheets

The Planet Money podcast has an excellent analysis of the piracy business.  The interview with Per Gullestrup is terrific:

"Even pirates need a business plan. J. Peter Pham, an analyst of African affairs at the James Madison University, looks at the economics of guns, captains, and $2 million dropped into the sea in waterproof containers. Plus, Per Gullestrup, CEO of Danish shipping company Clipper Group, has dealt with pirates first-hand -- he says they're tough negotiators."

The podcast has coverage of a Geitner meeting first.  Skip past that to about 9:30 in.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2009/04/pirates_have_timesheets.html#more
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« Reply #130 on: April 25, 2009, 02:58:25 PM »

Not just Somalia, the entire Horn of Africa is a mess, with a bunch of dumb-asses in charge.  After Somalia, Eritrea and Ethiopia are probably the next poorest countries on the continent, but they are both wasting their resources with a huge military build up, fighting each other over some worthless uninhabited desert territory at the border region.  And then there is Sudan, which is also considered part of the Horn region.

If you listen to 40m at night, starting about 0400Z, you will hear the mess they are making out of the part of the ham band that was supposedly vacated by broadcasters, with the Eritrea-Ethiopia cat-and-mouse broadcast jamming game, on 7165 and 7175,  rendering 7160 practically unusable from 0400Z until 0530 or thereabouts every night when the skip finally plays out.  Sudan still blasts away with its carrier frequency right on 7200 starting at 0400Z.  Isn't their LSB, wiping out 7195-7200, still in violation of the evacuation order?
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« Reply #131 on: April 25, 2009, 04:35:38 PM »

sounds like a job for opra
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« Reply #132 on: April 25, 2009, 05:31:58 PM »

sounds like a job for opra
Opera or Oprah? Wink
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« Reply #133 on: April 25, 2009, 05:53:44 PM »

sounds like a job for opra
Opera or Oprah? Wink

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« Reply #134 on: April 26, 2009, 04:24:08 PM »

Looks like the Italians have decided not to dilly-dally around playing silly games.

The captain of an Italian cruise ship foiled an attack by pirates off the coast of Somalia on Saturday by ordering his security crew to fire back, Italy's ANSA news agency reported.

Six armed pirates in a speedboat attacked the ship, which had about 1,500 people onboard, ANSA said. They fled after the security crew fired back.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/africa/04/26/somalia.pirates/index.html?eref=rss_topstories
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« Reply #135 on: April 26, 2009, 08:05:01 PM »

OK I mean Dopra, you know the one with the show.
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« Reply #136 on: April 26, 2009, 11:41:28 PM »

Looks like the Italians have decided not to dilly-dally around playing silly games.

Six armed pirates in a speedboat attacked the ship, which had about 1,500 people onboard, ANSA said. They fled after the security crew fired back.

Apparently this particular Italian cruise line has decided to defend its assets:

ROME (AP) — An Italian cruise ship with 1,500 people on board fended off a pirate attack far off the coast of Somalia when its Israeli private security forces exchanged fire with the bandits.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2009-04-26-italy-pirates_N.htm
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« Reply #137 on: April 27, 2009, 10:39:02 AM »

Some people shouldn't be carrying Uzis...


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« Reply #138 on: April 27, 2009, 11:30:32 AM »

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« Reply #139 on: May 09, 2009, 08:03:19 AM »

Tough being a pirate these days

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/09/world/africa/09pirate.html?

For Somali Pirates, Worst Enemy May Be on Shore

GAROOWE, Somalia — Abshir Boyah, a towering, notorious Somali pirate boss who admits to hijacking more than 25 ships and to being a member of a secretive pirate council called “The Corporation,” says he’s ready to cut a deal.  Facing intensifying naval pressure on the seas and now a rising backlash on land, Mr. Boyah has been shuttling between elders and religious sheiks fed up with pirates and their vices, promising to quit the buccaneering business if certain demands are met.

“Man, these Islamic guys want to cut my hands off,”  he grumbled over a plate of camel meat and spaghetti. The sheiks seemed to have rattled him more than the armada of foreign warships patrolling offshore. “Maybe it’s time for a change.”

It will be exceedingly difficult for these men — or the local businesses that they support — to make that kind of money doing anything else in this beleaguered nation.

Still, the Puntland pirate bosses insist they are ready to call it quits, if the sheiks find jobs for their young underlings and help the pirates form a coast guard to protect Somalia’s 1,880-mile coastline from illegal fishing and dumping. These are longstanding complaints made by many Somalis, including those who don’t scamper up the sides of cargo ships, AK-47 in hand.

When Mr. Boyah walked into a restaurant recently, he had to shake half a dozen hands before sitting at a plastic, fly-covered table with two foreign journalists.  “Ha!” he said, through a mouthful of spaghetti. “Me eating with white men. This is like the cat eating with the mice!”

...it is hard to see exactly where all those millions went, at least here in Garoowe. There are some nice new houses and a few new hotels where pirates hang out, including one encased in barbed wire called “The Ladies’ Breasts.” Dozens of dusty Surfs prowl the streets. But not much else.

Mr. Boyah, who lives in a simple little house, explains: “Don’t be surprised when I tell you all the money has disappeared. When someone who never had money suddenly gets money, it just goes.”  He claims that his estimated take of several hundred thousand dollars disappeared down a vortex of parties, weddings, jewelry, cars and qat, the stimulating leaf that Somalis chew like bubble gum.  Also, because of the extended network of relatives and clansmen, “it’s not like three people split a million bucks,” he said. “It’s more like 300.”  Oh, Mr. Boyah added, he also gives 15 percent to charity, especially to the elderly and infirm. “I’d love to give them more,” he said.

Over all, he seemed like a man on a genuine quest for redemption — or a very good liar.  “We know what we’re doing is wrong,” he said gravely. “I’m asking forgiveness from God, the whole world, anybody.”  And then his silver Nokia phone chirped yet again. He would not say what he needed to do, but it was time to go.

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