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Title: Wireless power transmission at 6.4 MHz
Post by: k4kyv on November 15, 2006, 07:02:57 PM
 6.4 MHz has been proposed for wireless power transmission to low-power devices such as computer peripherals.  Like BPL, they claim it to be "non radiating."  It is clear of the ham bands for now, but there has been talk of extending the 40m band downwards to steer clear of the SWBC stations.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6129460.stm


Title: Re: Wireless power transmission at 6.4 MHz
Post by: Tom WA3KLR on November 15, 2006, 07:31:49 PM
Non-radiating, yet wireless power transmission  ???  :o


Title: Re: Wireless power transmission at 6.4 MHz
Post by: Bacon, WA3WDR on November 15, 2006, 07:44:46 PM
It won't work, but maybe it will produce a large number of surplus high-power MF amplifiers.


Title: Re: Wireless power transmission at 6.4 MHz
Post by: Rob K2CU on November 16, 2006, 08:42:40 AM
and the power will come directly from those magnetic engines!

and what would the power density in the near field be for such a system? and you know it would be absorbed by such a non resonant, lossey object like the human body.


Title: Re: Wireless power transmission at 6.4 MHz
Post by: WA1GFZ on November 18, 2006, 10:12:27 AM
Great I'm putting a diode on my antenna and to get free power.


Title: Re: Wireless power transmission at 6.4 MHz
Post by: Steve - WB3HUZ on November 18, 2006, 11:41:31 AM
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Non-radiating, yet wireless power transmission?

Yep. It's been around for at least 100 years. You use it every day. It's called a transformer. ;D


Title: Re: Wireless power transmission at 6.4 MHz
Post by: John Holotko on November 18, 2006, 06:57:58 PM
This is drivel


Title: Re: Wireless power transmission at 6.4 MHz
Post by: Tom WA3KLR on November 18, 2006, 07:42:29 PM
Steve,

All of my power transformers have wires, except for the one I got from an extra-terrestrial visitor.


Title: Re: Wireless power transmission at 6.4 MHz
Post by: Steve - WB3HUZ on November 18, 2006, 08:15:52 PM
Sure. Antennas are made of wire too, but radio is called wireless.  :D

Open up those transformers and see if any wires connect between the primary and secondary. Unless it's an autotransformer, there won't be any. Power is transmitted from the primary to the secondary without any wires. Magic!


Title: Re: Wireless power transmission at 6.4 MHz
Post by: Tom WA3KLR on November 21, 2006, 03:01:20 PM
I just found this article at http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2006/wireless.html
It's the same ultimate source as the article Don listed at the start of this topic.

Wireless energy could power consumer, industrial electronics

Dead cell phone inspired researcher's innovation


Davide Castelvecchi, American Institute of Physics
November 14, 2006

Recharging your laptop computer, your cell phone and a variety of other gadgets may one day be as convenient as surfing the web--wirelessly.

Marin Soljacic, an assistant professor in MIT's Department of Physics and Research Laboratory of Electronics, will describe his and his MIT colleagues' research on that wireless future on Tuesday, Nov. 14 at the American Institute of Physics Industrial Physics Forum in San Francisco.

Like many of us, Soljacic (pronounced Soul-ya-CHEECH) often forgets to recharge his cell phone, and when it is about to die it emits an unpleasant noise. "Needless to say, this always happens in the middle of the night," he said. "So, one night, at 3 a.m., it occurred to me: Wouldn't it be great if this thing charged itself?" He began to wonder if any of the physics principles he knew of could turn into new ways of transmitting energy.

After all, scientists and engineers have known for nearly two centuries that transferring electric power does not require wires to be in physical contact. Electric motors and power transformers contain coils that transmit energy to each other by the phenomenon of electromagnetic induction. A current running in an emitting coil induces another current in a receiving coil; the two coils are in close proximity, but they do not touch.

Later, scientists discovered electromagnetic radiation in the form of radio waves, and they showed that another form of it--light--is how we get energy from the sun. But transferring energy from one point to another through ordinary electromagnetic radiation is typically very inefficient: The waves tend to spread in all directions, so most of the energy is lost to the environment.

Soljacic realized that the close-range induction taking place inside a transformer--or something similar to it--could potentially transfer energy over longer distances, say, from one end of a room to the other. Instead of irradiating the environment with electromagnetic waves, a power transmitter would fill the space around it with a "non-radiative" electromagnetic field. Energy would only be picked up by gadgets specially designed to "resonate" with the field. Most of the energy not picked up by a receiver would be reabsorbed by the emitter.

In his talk, Soljacic will explain the physics of non-radiative energy transfer and the possible design of wireless-power systems.

While rooted in well-known laws of physics, non-radiative energy transfer is a novel application no one seems to have pursued before. "It certainly was not clear or obvious to us in the beginning how well it could actually work, given the constraints of available materials, extraneous environmental objects, and so on. It was even less clear to us which designs would work best," Soljacic said. He and his colleagues tackled the problem through theoretical calculations and computer simulations.

With the resulting designs, non-radiative wireless power would have limited range, and the range would be shorter for smaller-size receivers. But the team calculates that an object the size of a laptop could be recharged within a few meters of the power source. Placing one source in each room could provide coverage throughout your home.

Soljacic is looking forward to a future when laptops and cell phones might never need any wires at all. Wireless, he said, could also power other household gadgets that are now becoming more common. "At home, I have one of those robotic vacuum cleaners that cleans your floors automatically," he said. "It does a fantastic job but, after it cleans one or two rooms, the battery dies." In addition to consumer electronics, wireless energy could find industrial applications powering, for example, freely roaming robots within a factory pavilion.

Soljacic's colleagues in the work are Aristeidis Karalis, a graduate student in the Department of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science, and John Joannopoulos, the Francis Wright Davis Professor of Physics. Both are also affiliated with the Research Laboratory of Electronics. The work is funded in part by the Materials Research Science and Engineering Center program of the National Science Foundation.

A version of this article appeared in MIT Tech Talk on November 15, 2006.


Title: Re: Wireless power transmission at 6.4 MHz
Post by: Steve - WB3HUZ on November 21, 2006, 09:43:13 PM
There are already wireless battery chargers out there. I have one. They work.
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