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Title: AM "exception" in ARRL bandwidth petition already drawing fire Post by: k4kyv on December 04, 2005, 07:24:24 PM I think we could have reasonably predicted this:
Quote Perhaps the one thing most egregious to digital proponents in the ARRL bandwidth plan has been an exemption in the 3.5khz band segment for AM. Mr. Rotolo confirms that this exception has raised quite a ruckus in the digital community. It begs the question, if an exception is created for AM why not an exception for 25khz data Quote Perhaps the petition shows undue favoritism for AM phone. Instead of that, a better way would be a 10kHz bandwidth overlay in parts of larger HF ham bands at reduced average power level.(emphasis mine) This would allow AM but not preclude other transmission methods with similar bandwidth occupancy effects. Obviously, the ARRL has bowed to tradition in these areas in their efforts to accommodate the status quo. http://www.qrz.com/ib-bin/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST&f=3&t=108389 Title: Re: AM "exception" in ARRL bandwidth petition already drawing fire Post by: W2VW on December 04, 2005, 07:34:25 PM These nudnicks suggest no measurement techniques for complaince whatsoever. It is largely beyond the understanding of the proponents. Junk science. Make the font larger. It still is applaince talk. The whole thing is just as viable as BPL. Ham radio is now a blue collar sport. The guys in ties are long gone.
Title: Re: AM "exception" in ARRL bandwidth petition already drawing fire Post by: Paul, K2ORC on December 09, 2005, 10:20:37 AM I noticed that Bonnie Crystal KQ6XA, a digital proponent (on her website she styles herself a "21st century explorer and technologist") with what appear to be a few material interests in the manufacturing and sale of allied devices and/or accessories, plunked her "No" down quite emphatically on the so-called "AM exception" on QRZ.com.
This isn't surprising, though, since La Crystal's been floating her very own band plan around the internet for the past few years. Her bandplan relegates AM to part of 10 meters and above. In truth, and she makes no secret of it, she'd prefer to see AM go the way of the dodo and the passenger pigeon and she envisons a day soon when even slopbucket is dead as disco. Her posts on QRZ.com are full of large, bold text and hyperbole. I can't figure out if she's in earnest, or if she's trying to attract business for her diverse interests. Title: Re: AM "exception" in ARRL bandwidth petition already drawing fire Post by: WA3VJB on December 09, 2005, 10:38:48 AM She seldom has an original thought, I've noticed.
Also noted her demonstrated skill with the boldface and fontsize HTML tags. She drops red herrings every so often, with AM being one of them. I ignore her, because, if you've followed her history on QRZ.com, she magically appears any time someone else comes up with a controversial idea. Then, she makes minor tweaks and re-states that controversy as if she pioneered the concept or its opposition. I don't see any strong support for her or her adopted views. Title: Re: AM "exception" in ARRL bandwidth petition already drawing fire Post by: W2VW on December 09, 2005, 10:58:08 AM She seldom has an original thought, I've noticed. Also noted her demonstrated skill with the boldface and fontsize HTML tags. She drops red herrings every so often, with AM being one of them. I ignore her, because, if you've followed her history on QRZ.com, she magically appears any time someone else comes up with a controversial idea. Then, she makes minor tweaks and re-states that controversy as if she pioneered the concept or its opposition. I don't see any strong support for her or her adopted views. Maybe she's really that N1.. idiot Skip in drag. Title: Re: AM "exception" in ARRL bandwidth petition already drawing fire Post by: KL7OF on December 09, 2005, 11:57:22 AM What makes these digital people think that they have the right to dictate bandwidth and spectrum for the rest of us.....It seems like it is an all or nothing proposition for them..
Title: Re: AM "exception" in ARRL bandwidth petition already drawing fire Post by: K1MVP on December 10, 2005, 11:40:48 PM What makes these digital people think that they have the right to dictate bandwidth and spectrum for the rest of us.....It seems like it is an all or nothing proposition for them.. This topic,--"legacy modes vs digital" has been discussed on QRZ "ad infinatem" triggered by the new regulation by bandwidth proposals. Paul,--WA3VJB, can fill you in if you have any questions about the "elitest digital" attitude out there. 73, K1MVP Title: Re: AM "exception" in ARRL bandwidth petition already drawing fire Post by: W2VW on December 11, 2005, 12:18:09 AM BandWITCH proposal?
Title: Re: AM "exception" in ARRL bandwidth petition already drawing fire Post by: Pete, WA2CWA on December 11, 2005, 04:10:06 PM She seldom has an original thought, I've noticed. Also noted her demonstrated skill with the boldface and fontsize HTML tags. She drops red herrings every so often, with AM being one of them. I ignore her, because, if you've followed her history on QRZ.com, she magically appears any time someone else comes up with a controversial idea. Then, she makes minor tweaks and re-states that controversy as if she pioneered the concept or its opposition. I don't see any strong support for her or her adopted views. We also have demonstrated skills in boldface and font size here too. See the posts at: http://amfone.net/Amforum/index.php?topic=6210.0 Title: Re: AM "exception" in ARRL bandwidth petition already drawing fire Post by: W2VW on December 11, 2005, 06:23:46 PM She seldom has an original thought, I've noticed. Also noted her demonstrated skill with the boldface and fontsize HTML tags. She drops red herrings every so often, with AM being one of them. I ignore her, because, if you've followed her history on QRZ.com, she magically appears any time someone else comes up with a controversial idea. Then, she makes minor tweaks and re-states that controversy as if she pioneered the concept or its opposition. I don't see any strong support for her or her adopted views. We also have demonstrated skills in boldface and font size here too. See the posts at: http://amfone.net/Amforum/index.php?topic=6210.0 You have to admit it looks pretty good here with this software eh? Title: Re: AM "exception" in ARRL bandwidth petition already drawing fire Post by: K1MVP on December 12, 2005, 01:28:36 PM Hey Bruce,--W1UJR,
Was looking at the photo you posted on the "image gallery" where WA1HLR is "explaining" the bandwidth proposals to Riley Hollingsworth at Dayton. Made my day,--really got a "chuckle" with that one. 73, K1MVP Title: Re: AM "exception" in ARRL bandwidth petition already drawing fire Post by: KC4ALF on December 20, 2005, 06:38:46 PM They are trying to re-create the bad old days of the teens and twenties when bedlam reigned on the bands. Then they can say why look at those @^&"'* and all of that wasted bandwith wich could be sold at much money to worthy corporate interests instead of being wasted like that.
Just my conspiracy theory of the day. Title: Re: AM "exception" in ARRL bandwidth petition already drawing fire Post by: c. mac neill w8znx on December 22, 2005, 12:14:57 PM Dear Bonnie is also hard core anti cw
Mac dit dit Title: Re: AM "exception" in ARRL bandwidth petition already drawing fire Post by: k4kyv on January 13, 2006, 02:27:06 PM What makes these digital people think that they have the right to dictate bandwidth and spectrum for the rest of us.....It seems like it is an all or nothing proposition for them.. Isn't that what digital is, by definition? |