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Thanks for reminding me why I don't get on 75 any more.

Bravo!!! Bravo!!!   its good that these fine examples of Amateur Practice are saved for future generations.. I just wish I had a record of some of the past grates.....            no kids, no lids no .....   klc

Let's see:  "CQ, CQ, CQ, No lids, no kids, no space cadets A1 operators only"  Then the quiet band would sound like a 20 meter DX contest with a very rare station making an appearance.

I think the guy was W2OY.

Yes, Myron, w2oy

Good stuff Ken. Both entertaining and enlightening, unlike most of the rest of the stuff you hear on amateur radio.

And Ken, I have tape of W2OY, including one of the (in)famous CQ,

"CQ no lids, no kids, no space cadets, no long-talkin' old washer women.  Are there any CLASS A TYPE OPERATORS around?  W2OY, Short Talk calling CQ and listening."

It's priceless!

K2 Varsity Herb (formerly known as K2 Junior Varsity Mike)

What?!  No other examples of shameful behavior such as:

1)  Laughing on the air by saying "HI HI".  Or even worse, interspersing each sentence with the word "HI", as in "I lanced my cat's boil last night.  Hi.  My wife died last week.  Hi.  The mod tranny just started arcing. HI HI."

2)  Droning on and on and on and on about your health problems and/or local rainfall totals

3)  Saying "we" instead of "I"

4)  Saying "Fine Business" (except in jest)

5)  Breaking into a roundtable with a pissweak signal then griping bitterly when nobody can hear you.

6)  Taking any inadvertant slight as a direct personal attack.

Using Morse Code abbreviations on phone.

Saying 73s.

Breaking into a roundtable QSO and then stating, "I don't know who is in here, so I'll just toss it up in the air."

Complaining about the same personal problems for days/weeks/months/years on end.

Calling CQ 5 kHz away from another AM QSO already in progress.

Running less than 5000 watts when the band is crowded.

Claiming you worked Hiram, KH6JS when you didn't.

Yep, everyone loves to see a good bar room brawl once in a while.  
75M is a great tavern.

More outrageous behavior on 75M:

1) Using the word "amperage",  instead of "current".

2) "       "     "       "juice",  instead "voltage".

3) "       "      name    "Rich" instead of "Dick".

4) Punishing someone you don't like by signing out
abruptly, thus depriving them of your presence.... the
funniest of them all.

5) Doing LOCAL signal comparsons on 75M - like it really means
anything the way local cornditions swing all over the place.

6) Breaking into a QSO, then apologizing to tune up becuz
you're too lame to do it off freq beforehand.

7) Saying my "SWRs" are high today.

Eight) Saying, "The personal here is Pud... what's yours?"

Any of the above violations cud get someone exiled to 160M
round tables for life. Or, forced to listen to an insurance agent
for eternity - your choice.

T

Presupposes anyone values said person's presence in the QSO to begin with.

Yeah, really.  Signing out in a huff is really doing the "intruder"
a favor. Best to hang around and stay in the QSO to make
his life more miserable, wouldn't you say?  :lol:

And of course:

"Well, guess I've talked long enough.... gawd, did I just talk
for 25 minutes straight? Guess I made an old buzzard, hi hi.
I'm gonna sign out now ... gotta leave right NOW and turn off
the RX."  [ie, Now that I got MY turn in big time you guys can
go pound sand - ]  :lol:


* Ever notice when there's a big group that keeps growing,
the transmissions get longer and longer? I think it's because
some guys get scared that they're never gonna get it again
and might as well get their licks in while they can. And
then, the phrase above gets uttered: "well, guess I talked long
enuff..."  

Or, if the old buzzard hangs in for another round, NO ONE
comments on any of his transmission - like it didn't happen.

The rule is: Comments back are inversely proportional to the
length of your transmission.  ie, ask a simple one sentence
question and get a reply to 100%.  Talk aimlessly
for 25 minutes and get the comment back, "OK on all, Dick!  
Great!  ....... so.......  did I ever tell you the story about how I....."

A PTT switch is a terrible thing to waste.

T

I can't wait for the next installment, "AMers who use unofficial phonetics". Look out, Thom!

Who remembers WA4Doggy?  He must've borrowed the lines from W2OY because he used to say 'no lids, no kids, no retireees' then go into a big rant about how those groups couldn't possibly have anything to share of interest. His name was Mikey, he claimed to be a TV station bigwig, but got busted one night by someone who knew him, letting everyone know that 'Mikey' was what they called a 'grip': he hauled cables around and stuff like that. Mikey abrubptly left frequency.


 

A what?  :lol:

How about repeating every statement 2 or 3 times using different words? "Yeah, the XYL is sure cranky today temp is 75 degrees you are 20 over 9 the XYL is in a bad mood today gotta QRT to cut the lawn sumpin' wrong with the XYL today yup "

FWIW, I grow tired of enormous round tables where there is no two-way conversation, only a series of "news reports" from each station:

"Today I adjusted the IF on the 75A4 and got that working good, and next I'll put the Valiant on the bench and take care of that bias problem. Went to the dentist about noon, got back just in time to take the wife to choir practice. Watched the game on TV, then grilled some salmon on the barbecue and had a nice salad with that. The latest ER was in the mail so I looked over the article on surplus conversion. Tomorrow I gotta get up early and shampoo the dog, then I gotta go to the hardware store and...."

No one picks up an idea and comments on it, or acknowledges the content of anyone elses transmission, so you end up with a series of boring, one-way "broadcasts".... :D

Actually, that was a rather interesting old buzzard, Joe!... :lol:

But I understand what ya mean...one way news updates.  
They certainly are interesting to the talker, and sometimes
interesting to someone you are best friends with. But I guess
hearing that stuff in a big group is a bore.

There's nothing more exciting than someone introducing a
hot topic where everyone gets emotional about it and it goes
fast break in. Or, the short jokes and kidding start up and go
ad lib. Or, someone blows up a new rig and you hear the blow
by blow.  What do these examples have in common? They
are how we really talk when we get together. At a party, at
a resturant, or at someone's shack.  The closer we get to
real world, real time conversation, the more interesting it
becomes.  

There's exceptions, where we have to describe a techical
process to someone, but unless you're really interested,
the QSO implodes. And, that's the danger. QSO implosion.
My rule is that if I introduce a new topic, if I get less than
one person involved and the others just listen, I drop it
and throw the ball to someone else. It happens quickly
sometimes.

But all in all, it is really difficult to keep everyone interested
in a breakin QSO without some drop outs. The key is letting
the subjects flow naturally and knowing when to change it
or just shut up for awhile. Not an easy thing for sure.

But being in a fast flowing and funny conversation on 75M
can be a joy - even for the casual listener. Getting people to
laugh - that's the art. Some guys are masters at it.

T

If a group of even very close friends went to a bar and each one talked for 10 or 15 minutes at a stretch non-stop, I'd bet they'd all end up either asleep or royally pissed at each other.  So why does the roundtable practice persist in ham radio?

THankfully, content-free QSOs are relatively rare amongst AMers although they seem to be the norm throughout much of the rest of ham radio.

73 John  (breaking HUZ' rule)

I Laugh any chance I get, this whole Worlds a Gass, it's the only way to get through man.

Besides I have my Groucho Glasses on when i'm on the air and yunns didn't know that, See I Know "Closet Groucho"... :D

Ken - Bravo! A job well done and many thanks for sharing everything with us. I really enjoyed every one.

John,
 I think the "long-winded" transmissions are from an era from the
 "old days" of AM,--many years ago when PTT was not very common.
 PTT became much more common when sideband became popular
 with vox, etc.
.
 As I recall, xmissions of 4 to 5 minutes was usually the "norm", and
 usually one on one, or maybe three people was not unusual.
 Nowadays with 4, 5 and even 6 people,--it  would seem even more
 imperative to use "breakin" to really keep the time down--not
 "drag it out".--Its no wonder some guys just "leave", as they might have
 to wait close to an hour to speak,--and by then they have probably
 fallen asleep,--or as you say just get "ticked" and leave.

 As to why it persists, --I don`t have a "clue"

 
                                       73, Rene, K1MVP :)

Yep I betcha it took a lot of effort to throw those old rack and panel rigs into transmit. You really couldn't do break-in. I really don't mind the longer, old-school style transmissions. It's part of what makes AM different and more relaxing than the frantic style of SSB. The carrier wave quiets the background noise and you have time to pause thoughtfully between ideas. As long as there is a conversational thread being pursued, it's enjoyable to hear four or five guys each adding their thoughts to a given subject.

KA1KAQ said:

[Who remembers WA4Doggy?  He must've borrowed the lines from W2OY because he used to say 'no lids, no kids, no retireees' then go into a big rant about how those groups couldn't possibly have anything to share of interest. His name was Mikey, he claimed to be a TV station bigwig, but got busted one night by someone who knew him, letting everyone know that 'Mikey' was what they called a 'grip': he hauled cables around and stuff like that. After the guy began to tell stories about Mikey's snorting habits, Mikey abrubptly left frequency.


Like you know anything about W2OY Todd.  He died when you were six years old.

Fine on all.

George Washington died before my great, great grandfather was born. But I sure know a lot about George Washington.

I haven't heard the Dawg on in many years. I wonder if he's hooked up with a Reeeeeeaaal Maaaaaaaaan!?!

I recall one time the Dawg called a FCC monitoring station and attempted to report himself for running excessive power, to a very confused engineer,
all live via phone patch. I think he told the engineer he was being broadcast live.

That about caused me to spill my beer....

Anyone know what became of the Dawg?

And my personal favorite....

"I've got a good copy on you"

On me? get that copy off me!!!  :lol:  :lol:

Yep, WA4D was one of the original shock jocks.  Back in around
1987-92? area [and later at times] he would get on between
3790-3870 and harrass anyone he could. He also hung out on 3868
for awhile with the "Zimbabwe" Nerd Net guys..

I've heard him break into DX window QSOs and axe US guys
why they were talking to Russian spies down in Nicaragua... while
the qso was in progress. And axe these Russians/portable  guys what
the hell they were doing down there in the first place. Or beat up
on corntesters axing them why they spend their lives doing this.

He sometimes would break into an ssb southern group and axe
them if they ever had sex with a REAALL MAN!  These guys would
go crazy and get out of control while Mike just laughed..

He actually had a sharp wit and could out talk most anyone who
would try to work him over.

He would call CQ and hold court with an iron fist. After 1 minute
with someone he would say, "Is that  all you got?  Now him the
road... NEXT!"  :lol:

I think he was one of the original "Caw  mawn" users on ham
radio.

I think he finally got bored with it, plus I heard someone started
calling the  TV station where he supposedly worked as a camera
man and telling of his on-air  exploits...

Mike was fun to listen to... I even had an encounter with him in
the DX window as he went around there mimicking the shallow
game of working DX...   Didn't phase me- he looked for a
big negative reaction - but couldn't push my buttons. I think
I asked HIM if he ever had sex with a Reeaal MAAN... and he went
away to haunt someone else realizing I knew his schtick..... :lol:

Yes, his on-air phone patches  to the FCC monitors were a scream.

Mike belongs in the radio hall of the infamous with some of the
other stand-outs of ham radio.

T

Google WA4D.  A bunch of sites including some with sound clips like:  "At any rate gentlemen, this is WA4D.  Americans only, please.  QRZ.  I'd prefer not to talk to you Social Security recipients this evening.  I'd like people that are still working for a living."  
http://www.papays.com/audio.html

(http://www.ke9r.com/audio/wa4d/wa4d-l.jpg)

Check out this recording of the Dawwwggg.

http://www.papays.com/dogqrz1.wav

Yep, funny stuff!

And, here's the Dawg congratulating the corntesters at N5AU
by telling the losers on freq about it:  


Click on the WA4D .wav file:

http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr/various-rec.html

Here's a 30 minute MP3 of the Dawg doing his whole
schtick - holding court and inciting a riot in the 75M DX
window:


Give it time to download as it's a BIG file. Click on the .MP3
file when done. The site is kinda blank looking except for this
file...

The Best of the Dawg: "W-A-4  DEMOCRACY"

http://www.ke9r.com/audio/wa4d/wa4d-SA-SFH.mp3

 :D

Heh heh (O, IM SRI, THATS HI HI)...

I never heard W2OY on the air, he died before I was born, I beleive. I've heard many a recording of him, though, and I'm sure he would be less-than-impressed with me if he were alive today.

Even though I was never acquainted with the man, I do occaisonally wonder if my RF makes it to The Place Where Hams Are Eternally Blessed, causing him to turn the ethereal VFO knob in disgust. Of course, I'm usually operating from the pus-bus these days, which puts me in the "school bus riders" category by default.

For my money, anyone who gets upset over phoney-etics or transmissions that last more than 3 minutes should stick to "emergency preparedness nets" on 2M repeaters, and not bother getting on HF AM with us real men.  :badgrin:

When the crowd gets big, I try to keep it short (stop laughing, guys), but there are some thoughts that simply can't be conveyed in a single sentence. Now and then, I get off on a tear, but then I usually shut up for fifteen or twenty minutes while I go out back and barf.

Besides, sometimes the station operates the operator. I'm sure I'll fall asleep at the mike someday.  :shock:

The things that amuse me are things you don't find on AM too much, like the guys that use "QSL" like a CBer uses "10-4".  :evil:  Or "What was your call? What was your name? Again? Again? One more time, didn't quite catch that... AH! Okay, you're five-by-nine!"  :roll:

Thank God it's only a hobby, otherwise we might actually take this stuff seriously.

--Thom
Kraft Advertisement One Zesty Grated Cheese

"...fine business on the grass skirt and coconut bra, Mort....and Clem, fine business on using an old wall wart for the filament supply....and Todd, fine business on your new Collins tattoo...." ETC. ETC. ETC.

But I really don't have much to complain about. Here on the W.Coast there are only 6 to 12 AM "regulars" of about 50 sporadically active ops. Some nights there is not even an AM QSO to be heard on 75......

Thom,
You said it best.........we have enough problems on 75 without having  to worry about our diction.......or should I say dickshon...... :lol:

And if that's not dorky enough, you have those who go on to pronounce it "aitch-eye", instead of "high."



I thought the proper term was "cuntrent."



I usually don't stay in roundtables once they start to grow enormously in size, unless the topic of discussion is truly enthralling.  My SOP is, "Once there's more than four, it's time for the door."

Kinda like punishing someone by not using this forum any more.

Swing that Moonraker cawmaun!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I recall W2OY's latter days, when he went to SSB.  I remember ticking him off once, calling him a plug-in appliance slopbucket operator.

Actually, people who knew him said his on-the-air antics were 90% put-on, that he was actually a nice guy in person.  That was just the way he got his kicks.

Even his name meant Class-A.  His last name was Preemus (originally spelt Primus - Latin for Number One).

W2UJR, who knew him personally, wrote an article about him in one of the issues of The AM Press/Exchange.

The first time I ever heard him was sometime in the early 60's on 20m AM.  He was bitching about "phonies" (phonetic users).  He wouldn't talk to me because I was a "long talker" and he only wanted to contact "short talkers."

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Yep, I almost forgot about that one. Next time I hear a guy
laugh H - I , I'm gonna come back and tell a lousy ham joke
and laugh hysterically for 15 straight seconds in "H" I" 's.

BTW, I couldn't care less about proper diction on the air. Few
of us are English teachers and we don't nit pick. We are
joking about the slang and unusual Ham-eze habits. All of us
hams are strange birds if you look closely.  I think that's
kinda cool - to be different from the crowd, that is. The normal
people get bored quickly and go away. I'm not kidding. Ya
gotta be a strange one to be really excited about this hobby.
You can see it in our eyes. It's like when you axe a flying
saucer freak if he thinks there's life on other planets.  But,
I think deep down, everyone thinks THEY are normal and
the other guys are the strange ones... :D

Oh, Don.. one of my FIRST contacts on AM as a high voiced
13 year old JN was answering a CQ from W2OY. He tore me a  
new A-hole and it left permanent scars for months. I didn't
know what the heck hit me after that encounter.

Did everyone download this MP3 of the Dawg inciting a riot in
the DX wiondow? It's the funniest 30 minutes I've heard on radio
in a long time. Check it out in its entirity if you haven't already. I
liked the part where he started the Fantasy Net and told the story
of meeting this long legged girl at the airport.
http://www.ke9r.com/audio/wa4d/wa4d-SA-SFH.mp3


HUZ, your old dog shot is the best. I couldn't  resist posting Yaz III
as a pup again. He's almost 2 years old now:
(http://home.comcast.net/~k1jj/wsb/media/254120/site1035.jpg)

T

And a handsome gentleman he was (and still is). Here's Sasha as a JN.

(http://www.amwindow.org/misc/jpg/sashajn.jpg)

Herb, K2VH wrote:

 

 Hey now....I had a GI Joe walkie talkie, I used to listen to him on that.

 But as 'HUZ and 'ZGC pointed out (indirectly), H. P's dad built the Maxim gun and I know about that too, even though I didn't learn about guns until many generations of worms and compost later. Are those nasty sewage grinding machines keeping you awake nights, Herb?  :lol: I was merely comparing his (W2OY) statements [a matter of historical record] to similar remarks that I did in fact witness.

 I seem to recall that WA4Doggy had his license pulled, suspended, or something similar several years ago but think he got it back. I'll google and see what I find.

 Nice looking pups, guys. Makes me miss my ol' pal Max. Someday when time permits, I hope to find another co-conspirator of similar ilk. The one friend who is always there. :)

Right on!

Rather than speculate, here are the facts about what happened to WA4D:

Mile paid a forfeiture of $2,000 to the FCC for intentional interference but never had his license suspended or revoked. After paying the forfeiture he decided it was an appropriate time to take a break from ham radio and shortly thereafter sold off the majority of his ham gear.  

Mike wasn't a "grip"; he was a cameraman and later a technical supervisor on the team assigned to cover the White House for one of the major networks- work that calls for a great deal of skill and training.

At about the same time he was having difficulties with the FCC, Mike had completed a masters degree program. As a result, he received a nice  promotion from the network.  At the time, he told me that his increasing job responsibilities weren't leaving much time for ham radio anyway.

Anyone who knows Mike can attest to the fact that he is a very bright, very knowledgeable guy.

w3bv wrote:



 ...and was incredibly rude to people on air as well as causing deliberate interference to ongoing conversations. Not speculation - first hand experience. There are a lot of murderers, theives, and other crackpots with college degrees and plenty of knowledge who are locked away due to their inability to get along at least peacefully in society. I didn't claim to know precisely what took place from a legal standpoint, and my "or something similar" remark reflected that.  

 We have a simililar idiot up this way who appears to folks unfamiliar with him to be a 'decent guy'. If you check his run-ins with the FCC via the 14.313 episodes, you'll see that he lost his license for a while and ended up having his privileges limited by band/frequency. I heard him jam 'IFR a while back on 75. Turns out he's in trouble with them again for his antics, hopefully they will get rid of him this time.

 Beyond personal interpretation or opinion, being "bright and knowledgable" doesn't come with any guarantee of how it's applied. After all, Hitler was said to be brilliant in some ways (no Herb, I didn't know Hitler personally either) and we all know what happened there. In fact, it is as likely to make someone a bigger problem as it is to make them a better person overall. Mikey made it very clear to me and many, many others just what type of person he prefers to be.

 Yet another reason why real dogs are better than the wanna-be variety!  ;)

Roger on the "venom"...

K1JJ wrote:



 Must agree Tom, he was witty and nobody's fool beyond his own - and funny at times. Always struck me as well-read - I even agreed with some of his views, as I do with some of Irb's. It was when he got down to the name calling and petty crap along those lines that it got ridiculous. Not that he was particularly worse than those he was taunting, but why stoop to that level?

 Some folks just like to have fun. The ones who make a vocation of it do it for the attention and in Mikey's case - probably for the amusement, too. Makes me think of the antics of a certain 3-Land station in the recent past, with similar results.
 
 AM, even ham radio in general would be boring if it lacked the personalities and only involved the typical signal reports and stodgey conversations mentioned by others. Most folks know where to draw the line. Others, quite obviously, do not. Simple.

*woof* :p

Todd (KA1KAQ) wrote:

"Are those nasty sewage grinding machines keeping you awake nights, Herb?  :lol: I was merely comparing his (W2OY) statements [a matter of historical record] to similar remarks that I did in fact witness."

I want to acknowledge my superficial reading of Todd's post and his reference to W2OY.  I did a quick reading of your post, Todd, and thought you were referring to Mike Premus (W2OY), when you talked about "Mikey's snorting," etc.  I am unfamiliar with "WA4Doggy."  I knew W2OY well personally, however, and knew that the things you described about "The Dawg" did not apply to him.  So when you referred to "The Dawg" as "Mikey" I thought you meant Mike Premus.  That's where I got off base.

And Steve, (HUZ-Man), yes I too know a lot about George Washington (and Thomas Jefferson, for that matter).  So do we all.  That's because historically famous people such as these have had volumes written about them by historical scholars, and have been taught about in countless schools.  To my knowledge, W2OY has had only one published article written about him (November 1987 AM/PX).  The rest is not so much historical record as it is legend.

And so, Todd, I apologize to you for misinterpreting your post.  And Steve, Happy and safe Independence Day to you, and to all who read this Bulletin Board.  Thanks, Gary, for keeping it going.

K2 Varsity Herb (formerly known as K2 Junior Varsity Mike)

Just yanking your chain Herb. I'm sure W2OY isn't in the print of any high school history books but I have heard quite a bit about him over the years from you and others. Even if none of it is true, it sure is entertaining!

Have a great Independence Day Weekend.

W2OY - Yep, he's still around.
He is the tall guy on the right, on the left is W2UJR.


(http://hamgate.sunyerie.edu/~buffaloam/_borders/ujr50.jpg)

Herb said, "To my knowledge, W2OY has had only one published article written about him (November 1987 AM/PX). The rest is not so much historical record as it is legend."

This is not exactly true, how about this...

 http://hamgate.sunyerie.edu/~buffaloam/barf.htm


Interesting characters always make radio a bit more entertaining. I heard W2OY many times as I grew up in Hamburg, NY not very far from his QTH. My older cousin Chet WA2LDC chatted with Mike often and I now own the Globe King 500B he used. Never was part of that group, and I don't think W2OY knew we were related, but Mike scared the hell out of me when he answered one of my 75 meter CQs back in 1964. I was 14 and just got on AM with my newly built DX-60 with a $1.95 Lafayette radio crystal mike. I was concerned about screwing this up not because of W2OY, but if my cousin found out he would pound the crap out of me. Anyway I had a nice QSO with him and he mentioned "That DX-60 sounds pretty good for a rig with built in QSB." Took me a minute to figure out he was talking about that controled carrier screen modulation. Anyway he was nice to me and it's great to have the memory of talking to a "legend".

73, Marty WB2RJR

From QRZ.com callsign lookup:

W2OY      USA   Lookups: 1234
BUFFALO AMATEUR RADIO FRATERNITY
13166 BIG TREE RD
E AURORA NY 14052
USA

Some of the WA4D antics were funny to listen to, but the guy was (is?) an asshole.  He deserved the $2K fine for deliberate interference.  He would come on a frequency and announce to stations in QSO there that they had better QRT or QSY, because he was coming on in X minutes.  If the QSO continued, he would fire up on slopbucket with a big signal and announce that the onging QSO was "over," then call some of his buddies or call CQ until he succeeded in running the original QSO off.

He tried to run me off once.  I was determined that wouldn't happen, so I just kept on talking, pretending he didn't exist, although I could not even hear the other station while he was transmitting.  He was able to carry on his QSO as if I didn't exist, and I remember he made some kind of remark that "AM on 75 is history from this moment on," but I never locked horns with him again, or heard him make any particular effort to jam AM QSO's.

Gawd, this was a funny thread.   We were all in rare form 5 years ago... ;D   


T

Personal or operator name. WTF?  How about MY name is......

yo, I heard that - he spelled out his call out for the guy and said something like, " I cannot bear the shame any longer so I am turning myself in live on the air to the proper authorities, which would be you,  for running 25 thousand watts, that's 25 thou, baby, 25 big ones, ....... etc. etc.

I flipped out - it was just too over the top.  ;D

He also used to give out copies of his cancelled check, paid to the FCC as a qsl card years ago. We had an altercation on the air followed by a "meeting of the minds" at a local hamfest some years back. I was never one to back down and could be very intimidating years ago.

He could be a riot to listen to back in those days. Especially if you did not let him get your goat. He couldnt take it if he couldnt piss you off. He definately liked to "stir the pot"!!
You either loved him or hated him, there was nothing in between.

Guys:

I have a photo of a W2OY cartoon in my W1GAC archives somewhere. I should post it here.

On a different note, since January I have started transferring to digital my SWL and ham cassettes that I would record occasionally...some quite boring, but a few interesting. I have passed the 100th cassette mark, and may end someplace at 200 cassettes (usually 60 or 90 minute cassettes, recorded from about 1991-2009). They need some work and conversion to MP3. My guess is they may be ready this summer or fall.

I would like to make this audio available to limited hams on a "non-commercial, private for listening purposes only" basis, but wonder about the legality of sharing recordings of communications, esecially of people who have not approved of the distribution.

Thoughts?

Dan

Dan,

No permission from anyone needed.

Distribute all you want.  For free.

There are no rules against it...

And the people whos voice you have recorded from the amateur radio bands have no say what you do with the recordings.

I have boxes of on-air AM cassette tapes from about 1986 to the present. There are probably 300 (90 minute) tapes in there.  I was listening to some of the ones from around 1988 a few months ago. There were some very funny moments mixed in there.  But man, let me tell ya, some of the long, boring, old buzzard transmissions many of us made were legendary - 10, 15 minutes and longer. I listened to one of my own droning on and on about nothing.... it was actually embarrassing to listen to... ;D

I think most of us have livened up our acts and keep the transmissions short and spunky these days. The quick break-in nightly roundtables a few years ago were the best tapes of all to listen to, though I have very little of that era taped - too bad.

T

Now Tom, how is this any different from the present? (JK, LOL, HI HI OM)

I definitely enjoy short break-in type conversations much more than extended round tables, for all the reasons that people have already stated so many times. I believe the most memorable conversations that I have listened to or participated in were break-in. I honestly can't recall too many details from any old-buzzard transmissions that I made or heard. Ah well, it's only a hobby...

:O)

One:

Tron's waxing for an hour about modifying a Ranger.

The WHOLE story.

Dan

That, and I haven't been on the air for the better part of a year.  ;D

I'm pretty sure I talked to you within the past six months on 3733 kHz. Or maybe it was a long delayed echo.  :D


I know I haven't cleaned up my act.



:D

Very interresting Ken! ;D
And still I enjoying, when I hear AM from the USA.
For me it is unbelievable to reach the USA in AM with only 140 Watts.
With my homemade transmitter and modulator on our AM freq.: 3705 khz!
And a little piece of wire (Inverted V) hanging in the trees....


Greetings,

Henk
pe1mph

One must admit that some of them are absolutely priceless!!  ;)  ;D

Yeah, you're right. I did fire up the Junkyard Dawg on Christmas Eve. Otherwise, I've been pretty much signala non grata for the last 10 moths or so.

Alas, the weekends are getting warmer, so that may change soon.

FB. Is it a heat in the shack situation?

That's a big QSL on the channel, caw mawn.

Too cold in the winter, too hot in the summer. See the pics in the gallery. No insulation, and the ceiling's too high for space heat. Solutions are more effort than they're worth.

Xmas eve was a special occasion, though, especially with Frank just out of the hospital.

This weekend is supposed to be sunny in the mid 40s, so I might go for a quick cameo.

I haven't heard the Dawg on the air for years, but he has been hanging out on the QRZ.com "talk" forum recently, still yanking chains.  I always thought the guy was an asshole, but absolutely hilarious to listen to. Kind of like Double-You 8 No Balls, but at the opposite extreme of the intelligence scale.

Don't worry about recording ham radio conversations off the air, and then posting them. It's perfectly legal. Amateur radio transmissions are considered public information and not subject to any kind of "privacy" laws.

Guess I was lucky.  Mostly grew up in the hometown of Potter and Brumfield which was a major relay manufacturer [before getting bought out by whichever multi-national corporation and moved/closed].  Most of us here, even most of the old-timers of the 50's and 60's had PTT, even if it was not on the microphone.  Just lucky, I guess.  Of course, you have to remember that the inverse of PTT is RTL [release to listen].

The microphone is the worst place to have the PTT switch.

Speaking of the "Dawg", I just visited the QRZ.com forum, and noticed that he is now listed as "banned" after only 69 posts.   ;D

Heh, once a moron, always a moron.

Well, I'll do it for you Steve.

"Gawd, you necro guy just tear me up."
Took me ten minutes of wading through the thread from page one, and a bunch of broken audio links before I realized that most of it was from 2005... and now you guys have to dig it up and comment all over again.

Brand new, I tell ya...   
"and the second thing to go."

unlike most necros this one was entertaining.

yeah, but like re-reading a story I forgot I read six months ago... 

Now I wish the audio links still worked.

I h'ain't bitchin' ; I just wish my brain cells still worked   ;D

I fell into the same trap when Tom first revived it. I started reading the thread from the beginning, and was quite entertained until I found one of my posts, then looked at the timestamp, and realized I'd been in on the thread when it started five years ago.

Felt just a bit silly after that.