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Title: digital receiver readout without modifications
Post by: PA0NVD on February 25, 2019, 01:06:42 PM
I did like to have a digital read-out for my HRO, R1155 etc without modifying the receiver. Si I bought the low cost programmable digital counter at Ali express, Epay etc. for a few bucks. The counter has a capacitor input that did allow me to put 5 Volts DC at the input via a 56 Ohm resistor and a ferrite beat. to power a remote RF amp to pick-up the RF from the LO of the receiver. The RF amp is nothing more than a J-FET to get a very high input impedance. The FET should be one that take approx 10 - 15 mA at zero gate volts, I used a BF245, but a J310 and alike should work fine. The drain goes via a thin coax to the counter, pic's attached. The counter performs perfectly and is programmed to subtract the 456 KHz IF.
Just left to make is a small case with power supply.


Title: Re: digital receiver readout without modifications
Post by: PA0NVD on February 25, 2019, 01:07:46 PM
and the last pic


Title: Re: digital receiver readout without modifications
Post by: N3GTE on February 25, 2019, 05:34:46 PM
Sure beats the heck out of trying to read those little charts!!!  Terry


Title: Re: digital receiver readout without modifications
Post by: KK4YY on February 25, 2019, 06:19:52 PM
Nico,

I see those counters from China on Epay for less than 12 USD shipped (to USA). I can think of a few places I could use them around here. I'm going to add it to my "wish list".

If I understand correctly, you needed to add the amplifier just so you wouldn't need to make a direct connection to the receiver instead, relying on a "gimmick" capacitor. Well done.

Don


Title: Re: digital receiver readout without modifications
Post by: N3GTE on February 25, 2019, 07:04:26 PM
I've use them on the work bench to check reciever's lo by using a couple turns of hookup wire around the mixer tube. Also can use them to set the lo w/o using a signal generator.

Terry


Title: Re: digital receiver readout without modifications
Post by: PA0NVD on February 25, 2019, 10:25:10 PM
Hi Don.
The counters indeed are less than 12 $. And they are real easy to program for IF offset, gate time etc. The amp is more to be able to enter the signal through a thin coax cable and remain a VERY loose coupling with the oscillator indeed without a physical connection.  So it transforms the very high impedance to a current source to drive 50 Ohms.


Title: Re: digital receiver readout without modifications
Post by: Opcom on February 25, 2019, 11:44:39 PM
Cool. I could watch my SX-28 drift with that!


Title: Re: digital receiver readout without modifications
Post by: PA0NVD on February 26, 2019, 09:37:46 AM
What radio is that on your work bench Terry?. I have a nice collection of radio's from 1926 to 1938. Love to restore them.


Title: Re: digital receiver readout without modifications
Post by: N3GTE on February 26, 2019, 02:09:41 PM
Hi Nico
It a big old Philco 41-300.
Here's technical stuff:  http://www.nostalgiaair.org/Resources/423/M0013423.htm
Great sounding set w/push pull 42's in the output and - feedback.
 
Terry


Title: Re: digital receiver readout without modifications
Post by: WD8BIL on February 26, 2019, 02:53:52 PM
Nice job Nico!

What is the value of the gate resistor?


Title: Re: digital receiver readout without modifications
Post by: PA0NVD on February 26, 2019, 05:00:47 PM
I used 470 kOhm, but non critical.


Title: Re: digital receiver readout without modifications
Post by: PA0NVD on February 26, 2019, 05:24:00 PM
Nice radio Terry, not only technical, but also for decoration.
Here is an other interesting radio, a Manufrance BA36 from 1936 Tone control by bandwidth change of the IF, Balanced detector (+ and - output) and each leg driving balanced preamp using 2 EF6 tubes and balanced output amp with EL2. Balancing is assured more by common cathode resistors.
But my favorite is a 1926 radio, pics attached. It looks new, also the tubes are new, quite unbelievable. Such a find is quite rare.


Title: Re: digital receiver readout without modifications
Post by: PA0NVD on February 26, 2019, 05:24:56 PM
diagram of the detector and output of the manufrance
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