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Title: Why spend all that time and money on radials?
Post by: N0WEK on January 08, 2017, 04:19:32 PM
The latest in audiophoolery....

https://www.tweekgeek.com/entreq-ground-boxes/?gclid=CjwKEAiA48fDBRDJ24_imejhwUkSJAAr0M5kxgVZMqGL7DRodZ4b4OnTfPKQRErQOSm4ZpuybttJ7hoC7jLw_wcB


Title: Re: Why spend all that time and money on radials?
Post by: KB5MD on January 08, 2017, 05:49:24 PM
Gee, I wish I had known about these before putting down all that wire in the pasture. 
These could have served a double purpose of grounding and holding hay or manure.   ::) ::)


Title: Re: Why spend all that time and money on radials?
Post by: W6TOM on January 08, 2017, 06:29:34 PM
  The box can probably also serve as a humidor for your wacky weed....


Title: Re: Why spend all that time and money on radials?
Post by: KC4VWU on January 08, 2017, 06:51:16 PM
You've got to be kidding me!


Title: Re: Why spend all that time and money on radials?
Post by: N0WEK on January 08, 2017, 07:04:51 PM
Take a look at their other fine products....

Enter Joe Cohen of The Lotus Group and his new "Enhanced Ground Adapters."  These small pods are an outgrowth of Joe's design work with his "Linebacker" AC conditioner and they build on the idea that potentially significant performance improvements are possible by "enhancing" or somehow improving the quality of your system ground. This won't sound like news to anyone who has worked with electric power distribution, but these pods are something else again and how they work is closer to modern-day voodoo.

https://www.tweekgeek.com/pranawire-super-enhanced-ground-plane/

And here is Joe's Linebacker AC conditioner...

Here a layer of undisclosed crystalline material not only gives the cable its bulk but also bestows upon it noise-absorbing qualities. Next to the cable’s crystalline coat the aluminum enclosure also is filled with such material albeit different from the conductor layer to provide additional noise absorption whilst shielding the male plug. Linebacker wraps all leads—hot, neutral and PE—into the same crystalline substance to effectively absorb noise from all three lines. The Linebacker is thus effectively a standard short Satori power cable with a passive noise reducing filter clamped to one end. The already high-quality Oyaide F1 with its palladium and platinum coatings over beryllium copper alloy is further damped by Pranawire to attenuate mechanical resonances.

Only $12,950.00 with all the options

https://www.tweekgeek.com/pranawire-linebacker-gp-se-xe/



You can't make this stuff up! :)


Title: Re: Why spend all that time and money on radials?
Post by: WBear2GCR on January 09, 2017, 10:08:57 PM

Hard to imagine that anyone with THAT MUCH discretionary $$ could be such an ignorant fool!!

Would it scare the c**p out of you IF you knew that the person buying this stuff was your doctor,
dentist or attorney?? Phew!

Quote:"This provides a far more consistent, reliable and potent grounding for your audio system than a grounding rod in your back yard (which you should have as well)."

Say what??

And: "the Entreq boxes is to literally consider them a box of "ground"."
Do they mean a box of DIRT?? But no, the box weighs 99lbs!! and it looks like it is only a modest size, so that leaves
gold, lead and uranium or plutonium inside??

I thought the Sun Mook Pucks took the cake, back last century... but this brings things to a whole NEW level.

"see the giant egress..." PT Barnum

                    _-_-bear


Title: Re: Why spend all that time and money on radials?
Post by: W3RSW on January 10, 2017, 08:18:02 AM
Um, my dad bought four heavy flat, dense flat rock looking things to place under the mounting feet of his rek-o-kut ? turntable. Supposed to damp the table top LF resonances. He swore by them. What could I say, but "Yeah Dad, I can hear it!"


Title: Re: Why spend all that time and money on radials?
Post by: WBear2GCR on January 10, 2017, 08:26:54 AM

Well THAT can and may have an audible effect.

It's a mechanical system in a field of vibration - some from the speakers.

You may laugh but I use those air flotation isolation "pods" under one of my turntables, they're 6dof and
self leveling. Same as used on optical benches and electron microscopes! (got 'em cheap and surplus, yeah!)

Others use boxes with sand and a heavy slab on top of that... aka poor man's iso platform.
And others use heavy slabs of rock and sometimes sheets of rubber placed between slabs, etc...

Some just use stuff under the feet.

That "ground box" has to be a joke.

                                 _-_-


Title: Re: Why spend all that time and money on radials?
Post by: w8khk on January 10, 2017, 09:20:47 AM
Um, my dad bought four heavy flat, dense flat rock looking things to place under the mounting feet of his rek-o-kut ? turntable. Supposed to damp the table top LF resonances. He swore by them. What could I say, but "Yeah Dad, I can hear it!"

Well, in that case, your dad was absolutely correct.  No snake oil here!  But it is what you did't hear that mattered, not what you could hear.

Low frequency bass and drum impacts will vibrate the walls and floor.  This causes feedback when the turntable moves the stylus in sympathy with the house movements.  Many of the older record changers, such as Garrard and Webster Chicago mounted the entire turntable assembly on springs to damp the feedback.  Later turntables, such as Acoustic Research, used a rubber damping and heavy platter for the same reason.  But Rek-O-Kut made the motor and turntable assembly rigidly mounted in the turntable base.  I had one with a Weathers 1/2 gram tracking tone arm, and if you crank up the bass, the feedback through the turntable increased rapidly.  I used a foam pad, and a couple layers of heavy pressed board, similar to the MDF we have today.  Feedback gone.  The slate performed the same function.  Moral:  Don't question your dad, even if you CAN'T hear the difference.  He fixed the problem!


Title: Re: Why spend all that time and money on radials?
Post by: WA2SQQ on January 10, 2017, 10:29:08 AM
Who can deny that washing your car and hanging a fresh "Christmas Tree" on the mirror will make your car run better?
If you spend this much, you've already convinced yourself that it will sound better.


Title: Re: Why spend all that time and money on radials?
Post by: KE7NL - Jack on January 10, 2017, 02:26:11 PM
Perfect companion to the ISOTRON!


Title: Re: Why spend all that time and money on radials?
Post by: W3RSW on January 10, 2017, 03:31:56 PM


"Don't question your dad, even if you CAN'T hear the difference.  He fixed the problem!"

I didn't dare.  ;D

We used to lie on the living room floor listening mostly to classical music on a typical winter weekend afternoon.

I have older sisters who played the piano.
--A baby grand, and talk about wasting time with nearby chords, I'd lie under it and grab the pedal risers to irk them.  Do you know the 'soft' pedal actually moved the entire keyboard to hit only two of the three strings for all notes from the hammers?
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