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Title: Flameotrol Tube
Post by: KL7OF on June 30, 2016, 07:46:37 PM
It is marked CK 5608.......I find 5608 without the ck prefix and it looks like a dual triode....link...( https://frank.pocnet.net/sheets/201/5/5608.pdf  )  1948 date Labeled for Wheelco corp.   Has a sticker that says DANGER..."When top of glass shows white, REPLACE TUBE"     Has 2 pins strapped together on the base...I will post some pictures...


Title: Re: Flameotrol Tube
Post by: KL7OF on June 30, 2016, 07:54:47 PM
Ok


Title: Re: Flameotrol Tube
Post by: Mike/W8BAC on June 30, 2016, 08:04:30 PM
Interesting Steve,
I hope you find someone here that knows what on earth this might be used in. I'll be monitoring, so to speak. 8)
Mike


Title: Re: Flameotrol Tube
Post by: KL7OF on June 30, 2016, 08:07:37 PM
5.5 watt dissapation per plate...med mu  audio uses?  Was originally used for burner control,fuel regulation ?


Title: Re: Flameotrol Tube
Post by: KD6VXI on June 30, 2016, 08:08:13 PM
Used in flame control in boiler systems.

Honeywell,  if memory serves.


--Shane
KD6VXI


Title: Re: Flameotrol Tube
Post by: KL7OF on June 30, 2016, 08:15:24 PM
Cool boxes...


Title: Re: Flameotrol Tube
Post by: KA0HCP on June 30, 2016, 08:48:40 PM
The tricky part is slipping the match in to light the tube!


Title: Re: Flameotrol Tube
Post by: KL7OF on June 30, 2016, 09:51:57 PM
IF..... it is in fact a 5608.... it was designed for ac on the plates.....What would be the design difference between AC or DC plates?  Could the tube be used with DC on the plate...??


Title: Re: Flameotrol Tube
Post by: DMOD on June 30, 2016, 11:05:44 PM
The 5608 is a simply a medium Mu, duo-triode with a common cathode (pin 4).

The  5608 was replaced by the 6J6:

https://frank.pocnet.net/sheets/093/6/6J6.pdf

One could use it as a dual medium mu audio triode. With the strap the filament will be at the same potential as the cathode.

I saw this once in a boiler control. it was the first AND gate so to speak.

One of the grids sensed pilot light heat via a thermocouple, the other grid went to an "on" or activate switch. Both plates went to the AC supply.

The cathode went to an AC relay that when pulled-in, opened the main burner gas valve.

Phil - AC0OB



Title: Re: Flameotrol Tube
Post by: KD6VXI on June 30, 2016, 11:07:18 PM
From another manufacturer,  it is a 5608.

As referenced by this mfg being peddled on the Bay.

http://m.ebay.com/itm/5608A-DUAL-TRIODE-AMPLIFIER-TUBE-BARBER-COLMAN-31-011-300-CONTROL-/191888222442?nav=SEARCH

--Shane
KD6VXI


Title: Re: Flameotrol Tube
Post by: Opcom on July 01, 2016, 07:08:45 PM
The 5608 was registered by Raytheon. Compare the curves and plate power roughly to a 6N7. or 6A6.
https://frank.pocnet.net/sheets/049/6/6N7.pdf


Title: Re: Flameotrol Tube
Post by: Mike/W8BAC on July 01, 2016, 08:02:09 PM
Good explanation Phil. That is an interesting use of a tube. 
Mike
AMfone - Dedicated to Amplitude Modulation on the Amateur Radio Bands