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Title: What is this? water jacket or X-ray tube?
Post by: Opcom on July 04, 2015, 01:09:39 PM
Can anyone comment on what this is? I do not think it is a Seifert X-ray tube as the seller claims. Could it be a water jacket for a transmitting tube?

The translation "Vor Offnen Netzspannung absco" is "Before opening mains voltage..." - so it does not tell a story.





Title: Re: What is this? water jacket or X-ray tube?
Post by: VE3ELQ on July 04, 2015, 02:12:24 PM
Ah yes a carbon pile phase detractor.  Haven't seen one in years.

Nigel


Title: Re: What is this? water jacket or X-ray tube?
Post by: W7TFO on July 04, 2015, 09:44:00 PM
Sure looks to be a socket for a water cooled tube.

DDG


Title: Re: What is this? water jacket or X-ray tube?
Post by: W3RSW on July 06, 2015, 07:34:05 PM
Well the handle appears to be turned upside down. It pulls an unshown radiation hot alloy cylinder that needs to be cooled for excessive radiation, possibly a neutron source that is also damped by the hydrogen in water, similar to paraffin.  X-rays though? Got me?



Title: Re: What is this? water jacket or X-ray tube?
Post by: DMOD on July 07, 2015, 01:26:27 PM
Looks like a 24 pill Cree-Fet Solid-State grease gun. ;)

Phil - AC0OB


Title: Re: What is this? water jacket or X-ray tube?
Post by: KA3EKH on July 07, 2015, 02:43:32 PM
That’s the firing case for an Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator. Hope the modulator not still in it, or else Kaboom.


Title: Re: What is this? water jacket or X-ray tube?
Post by: Opcom on July 07, 2015, 06:45:52 PM
..Ever in search of a bath for my Machlett ML-892. It may be best as a display item but seems a shame not to use it.

Best guess is a water jacket but for what.. Any X-ray tube would not work too well with the anode covered that much. The idea of the radioactive slug is interesting from the aspect of a thermal generator but those use thermocouples. Mysterious German technology.


Title: Re: What is this? water jacket or X-ray tube?
Post by: w4bfs on July 07, 2015, 07:49:00 PM
around here such a piece would get the federal bureau of ATF all excited


Title: Re: What is this? water jacket or X-ray tube?
Post by: W3RSW on July 08, 2015, 08:09:29 AM
It may not be for the generation of anything, X-rays included, but for storage of a  radiation hot cylinder that would be excessively thermally hot without water cooling and  with suitable, hands off pullability.


Title: Re: What is this? water jacket or X-ray tube?
Post by: RolandSWL on July 08, 2015, 08:45:49 AM
Time to dust off the old Victoreen and give it he once over?


Title: Re: What is this? water jacket or X-ray tube?
Post by: W3RSW on July 08, 2015, 11:10:41 AM
To late now.  ;D

I have a Victoreen, the ion chamber model rather than the more expensive GM tube model.
Guess it didn't make any difference for your typical family exposed to several rads.
Nice meters though, -both models.


Title: Re: What is this? water jacket or X-ray tube?
Post by: Opcom on July 08, 2015, 09:36:03 PM
I keep a couple of Geiger tube units to check the meters on old radios. That's about the extent of it.
If the ion chamber one is going off, the problem is already serious. The reading can indicate how many hours or days one could wait before evacuating. Those are best for use after a serious incident of some sort rather than any kind of casual or hobby work. Might pay to send it off and have it checked and calibrated these days.
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