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Just felt this needed to be here, not over at the For Sale Index....
but I think a good direction for folks to pursue is with "private" gatherings.
We know where they are, help out our fellow AMers by offering fair deals and strive to keep the rug merchants out.....they have already ruined most swaps, they own the internet, small private swaps are all that is left!
73 ol buzzard and tight wad steve w8tow



here here, I've been waiting for someone to step foreward and say something.
This is no different than any other item for sale in this country.
So many people like to lament "Oh the good ol days 15 years ago when you could buy a 75A4 for $200....sigh....."
Well, if that is what you miss, then bring it back!
Perhaps you all remember a particular guy in Michigan selling BA stuff for 10X the "real" value, well, he is out of biz now....!!! That is one down.

If you want others to appreciate a rig for what it really is (a nice old radio to enjoy using) and not sit on a shelf and look at it admireing your EBAY conquest, then help devalue the junk...
Sure a SX100 is a nice little Gen converage rig, but, really, ya gotta be insane to think it is worth $500 these days!
73 steve

I just don't understand how people can piss and moan about the price of this BA gear, or any price for any gear for that matter.
I agree, E-pay has increased inflation on much of this stuff, but people are only paying what they feel it is worth to them. If they feel a 75A4 is worth 1000 bux, then they pay it. Many seller's at flea markets who try to get e-pay prices at hamfest's find fast enough that they won't get those prices, packup the gear and go home.
Having experienced a massive sell off of gear, I chose not to use the e-pay route, and sell to the AM community. I priced the gear at a very fair price, and sold all of it in a 2-3 month span.
 I can tell you from experience, I would never go this route again. We( my OM and I) made a nice profit from it, however 2 invariables happened:
1 - P&M'ing about how a piece of gear wasn't what they expected, even after I sent pictures and countless discriptions of the equipment, regardless of the price.
2 - Scumbags re-sold at a markup of 5-10x, people I thought I trusted.
I would say about 60% of all purchaser's were happy with their purchases, the other 40% either P&M'ed or flipped it.

Point is, e-pay offers sellers a venue to sell thier ware's, and obtain the best possible price, and offers buyer's an opportunity to purchase something they probably would never see at a fester.
It however, does not allow people to fill thier basements with $10 rig's anymore, and brag how they screwed some old timer over at a fester.

2ZE

Seen this more and more recently. Collins stuff with BIG price tags on tables. Sure cuts down on the impulse buyers. Who goes to swap meets with a roll of $1000 bills in their pocket?

TOW,-- 2ZE,  

 The "rug merchants" have been around a long time. --even before
 "epay".
 I recall back in the 70`s at hamfests guys "crusin" and looking for
 stuff to see how cheap they could get it, just to turn around and
 resell it for a "tidy" profit.
 I recall coming down a lot on my price, on items (equipment, tubes)
 etc, because I thought I would be "helping" a fellow ham out, only
 to find that this guy was a professional "fleamarket broker",--get
 something for "nothin" to make a profit.--and couldn`t care less
 about ham radio.
 My policy, now is to ask a "fair price" (not obscene, or giveaway)
 and not assume anything about the buyer.
 Same goes for when I purchase,--I will make what I feel is a "fair"
 offer,--not an "inflated" or rediculously low one.
 As for epay,--I am real "careful", es usually shy away not only
 because of "inflated" prices, but "questionable" conditions and
 descriptions.
                                  73, Rene, K1MVP :neutral:

 p.s, Had a "stalker" at the last hosstraders, come out of "nowhere"
       to offer me a grand total of $100.00 for a mint HQ-129X just
       as I was loading up my truck at the end.
       My asking price was 150 bucks, which I thought was very
       reasonable.--told him no, es a few days later a guy called me
       es said he would be more than happy to pay $150 for a
       mint 129X.

Steve,

When you hear someone say that they miss the good old days when you could buy a 75A4 for $200, it usually means that "they" wish that they could buy a 75A4 for $200! That same person would never sell one for that!

I can appreciate your sentiment however. As a part of the northern Ohio Boatanchors group, I have seen a few pieces of very nice BA gear brought to the meetings and sold for reasonable prices. It is refreshing to see.

Ebay is not all bad either. We all tend to look at it as the scourge that ruined hamfests and drove up the price of old gear. In reality, Ebay is singlehandedly responsible for many basements and garages being cleaned out and many BA's that would have been lost to the dumpster, being resold into the ham radio community. The price is simply what it is worth to someone and because you or I might wish the price was less, well ... I would like to be driving a new Beamer too!

I thought about it a lot after I lost the bidding on a 3880 FT-243 crystal, new in the box, on Ebay. Some well known singer paid in excess of $50 for it. I thought how crazy but if that's the price he was willing to pay, the seller would have been crazy to take my measly $30 bid for it. It all depends on your perspective Steve.


--Larry W8ER

Don't hold your breath on this one.
Using your thought process, if I put my SX-100 on ebay, maybe the bidding will go up to $300, $500, or $800 ($820 has been the top bid for a SX-100), but, I'll be a nice guy, and take it to a local flea market where maybe, after some chewing down, I might get $125 to $150 for it. Duh, makes a lot of sense to me.

Unless a person is under pressure (going to marry, going to die, going to the moon, etc.) to sell off equipment very quickly, today's market selling environment provide a wider variety of choices for maximum "bang for the buck" whether you're a "rug merchant" or just cleaning out the basement.

Without B-Bay I could have never built the last rig I put together in two years time. There is just no other place to find this stuff. I paid some large money for some of the items but most of the time if I saw something I just put my best offer on it and if I won, good, if not, there were probably 3 more posted over the weekend anyway. Without e-bay the old buzzards would pass it to the kids who would chuck it into the dumpster. Now they post it on line and take what the market will pay. I'll probably do the same thing sooner or later. It's still true that If someone I know needs something I have, I'll usually sell it cheap or just give it to them. If they "make AM" with the parts, they are usually welcome to them.
Keith
WA1HZK

People will pay whatever they feel something is worth.  I've gotten a 75A4 (with 3 filters and spinner knob) for $250, and after the initial rush (and a few hours operating it) I felt ripped off.  Turned it at the next hamfest (for a profit, mind you!).

I fail to understand why it's somehow sinful to make a bit of money out of the hobby.

I buy junk, spend a LOT of time getting it working, aligning it, cleaning it, and sell it for a MODEST "profit" (which is NO profit at all considering the time I've spent on it).  Why do I do this?  (1) subsidizes my hobby (2) Wife sees me making a bit of money so she's wholly supportive (3) I love doing it!  There are a lot of guys that don't want to be bothered with the restoration and repair, they just want a nice radio.  Were I to charge them even $10 an hour to restore their turdball, they wouldn't be able to afford it.

That said, if I get a deal from a buddy, it's because that particular radio is going into the collection, and if I decide I have to get rid of it, the buddy that I got it from has first rights to buy it back.   Ruining a friendship for the sake of a few bux makes no sense, IMHO.

73 John

John,
 I agree with you,--I see no problem in making a "modest" profit,
 especially when you invest time and work to "resurrect" a piece
 of equipment.
 It is time-consuming and work to bring back a piece of equipment
 that has been has not been cared for over the years.
 And usually any offer that is made on a BA would usually reflect
 the condition it`s in and how much work it would take to restore
 it to "usable" or good condition.
 Abslolutely nothing wrong with that(making an offer based on its
 overall condition)
 And a seller does have a "right" to ask what he wants, even if the
 price is "inflated"--wether he get it(the price) is another matter.

                                         73, Rene, K1MVP
 
 P.S, Does anyone know how long the "radiofinder" has been out
        of business?(am sure he was in a "tough" situation,--trying
         to make a profit restoring BA`s)

Steve...

Without a doubt is a Market affair...

Here the prices I paid for some of my Botanchors in Mexico last year...
in USD equivalent

Collins 32G circa 1936  $60
Collins 32V3.............. $ 100
Viking Valiant............  $ 80
Collins 30L1 .............  $ 170

Any Idea for yours next Vacations trip guys?  :mrgreen:

Years ago I recall reading lists of AM broadcast stations in various countries, and the list of low power (<1KW) Mexican stations was long.  I have often wondered how many pre-WW2 transmitters might still be sitting around somewhere in an old building after the station went dark, or a new transmitter was purchased.  I used to hear several commercial Mexicans on the 25m shortwave band during the day, but they are apparently no longer on the air.  Wonder what happened to those old transmitters.

If I had more free time, a little better command of Spanish and some knowledge of political situations that might exist in various localities of the country, I would consider an expedition south of the border to see if I could sniff out some of  those old rigs.  I suspect Mexico is less a throw-away society than the US, and a few of those old rigs could still be stored away somewhere, dusty, but still in salvageable condition, instead of at the bottom of a landfill, and some of the owners might be willing to part with them if offered what they would actually be worth to an AM ham.

If anyone can find a 1950's vintage White's Radio Log, it listed all Mexican, US and Canadian stations by QTH, callsign and power, and I recall a long list of low-power stations in Mexico, many of them apparently in existence since the 1930's.  It wouldn't be difficult to figure out likely sites where antique broadcast transmitters, no longer in use, might still be sitting.

Sounds like you heard the same guy bragging on the air about how he got his transmitter the other day. Yup, we need more guys out there helping out old folks who can't lift boatanchors by paying them pennies on the dollar. I sometimes wonder if these folks own a mirror. Same goes for the guys who will jump at the chance to buy a rig at fire sale prices from "some old friends" who need money fast.

We were spoilt by the post WW2 era of cheap surplus components and equipment, and the early SSB era (circa 1963-70) when vintage equipment was considered worthless junk. I recall when it was very easy to find kw modulation transformers at hamfests for $10, and large triode transmitting tubes such as 250T's, 450T's, 833A's etc. for $5 each (they were "worthless" for amateur use because they didn't make good "linears"). Despite the then-recent implementation of Incentive Licensing, which was supposed to reverse the trend, homebrewing was falling out of favour with the amateur community, and nice old homebrew rigs could be had for a song if you could get them before they were transported to the landfill. Appliance operating had become the order of the day, and loose transmitting components were looked upon as junk. I often heard others laugh and make derisive remarks as I passed by, lugging a large transformer or other goodie through a hamfest fleamarket.

Sometimes the vendors simply didn't know what they were disposing of. In 1970 while I was building a KW AM transmitter, I had a 5-25 Hy 1 amp swinging choke in one of the HV plate supplies, and needed an identical choke for the other one. That choke was still listed in catalogues for a little over $100 each (1970 dollars). At a hamfest that summer, I spied that exact choke, model number and all, lying in about 2" of water in a mud puddle under a vendor's table. It was sparkling new, obviously just unwrapped from the original box that morning. After inspecting it, I affected a somewhat dumb sounding speech characteristic and asked the guy, "will you take a dollar for that ol' transformer lookin' thing under the table?" The guy almost jumped at the chance to say "yes" before I changed my mind. I gave him the dollar bill and walked away with the prize choke, still in perfect mint condition after I had wiped away the mud and dried it off. It is still in service in one of my rigs today.

In the early 1980's I ran the service department of a two-way commercial radio sales/service outlet. They also retailed amateur equipment and ran monthly display ads in QST. Commercial advertisers get an "inspection copy" of QST about two weeks before the normal subscribers get their monthly issue, so I always had an advance peek at the classified "ham-ads." One month, I spied a 75A4 for sale, "best offer." I phoned the guy immediately, and found that he was unlicensed, a lawyer who had just gone through a passing interest in amateur radio, and who wanted to get rid of some "old equipment" he had accumulated. He stated that the 75A4 was in good condition except for a "cracked tuning knob", and had all 3 stock filters. I made him a starting offer of $100, figuring he would want a lot more money, but that we would be able to eventually agree on a reasonable price. Surprisingly, he immediately accepted my first offer, and I had a m.o. in the mail that day. About a week later the 75A4 arrived just as he described it, except that the "cracked knob" could better have been described as a mosaic.

The receiver had the 4:1 vernier/spinner knob assembly, but it looked like the knob had been crushed with a sledgehammer and the pieces crudely epoxied back together. It still functioned, but the pieced-together spinner knob had a severe wobble. I took off the knob, noticing that someone had replaced the original setscrew with a roundhead Phillips screw. When I got the knob off, I discovered that a previous owner had attempted to remove the vernier mechanism from the shaft, apparently using an Allen wrench to turn the setscrew that took a "Bristol" spline wrench. They had rounded out the splines, and then apparently attempted to grab the head of the setscrew with a diagonal cutter, and succeeded in shaving off the protruding portion of the setscrew. The setscrew was located on a brass bushing that is inside the main internal-toothed gear of the mechanism, and I eventually concluded that it was imposssible to remove the screw, so I just ended up carefully filing away the brass bushing until the gear assembly slipped off. Of course the 4:1 mechanism was ruined, but I had an original 1:1 ratio Collins knob in my junkbox, so I installed it on the receiver. At least I had a solid, original tuning knob, but without the 4:1 reduction feature. Now I understood why the seller was so quick to accept my $100 offer. He thought he was ripping ME off!

After a little tweaking, the receiver worked well, but the 1:1 tuning ratio was too fast for my comfort. Then, a few months later, I discovered in the old "Ham Trader Yellow Sheets" a replacement 4:1 vernier assembly for sale for $35. I immediately called the guy, and arranged the purchase, luckily before anyone else had called. When it arrived, I had a brand-new, old stock Collins vernier dial kit, still unopened in its original box, with even the near-microscopic washers and other miniscule parts each sealed in its own postage-stamp size manilla envelope with the Collins part number stamped on the outside. The only damage was minor: the bakelite vernier tuning knob over the years had reacted with the plastic bag it was sealed in, relulting in some rough spots etched on the skirt. I installed the new vernier mechanism per the instruction booklet included in the kit, and it worked perfectly, as expected.

Not bad, a working 75A4 with all three stock filters and brand new vernier spinner knob assembly, for a grand total of $135. I'm  sure today's trophy collectors would pay several times that figure on e-Pay just for the virgin vernier knob kit, merely to display on the shelf, unopened, as "Collins NOS."

I prefer not to sell radio stuff for cash.  I always feel that if I ask what it is really worth, factoring in time I may have put into it, it will appear overpriced, and no doubt I will be accused of being a greedy rug merchant.  Besides, money is money; it all looks and feels the same, no matter what the source, and I already have a steady source of income.  If I sell a valuable and irreplaceable piece of radio equipment, it is gone, for ever, and the equivalent amount of cash will likely end up having no significant impact on my personal finances 12 months down the  road.  Instead, I prefer to trade irreplaceable pieces of radio stuff that I don't think I will need, for someone else's piece of irreplaceable radio stuff that I do need, and will very likely still be using 20 years from now.

Totally agree with you, your price was fair and reasonable. The "make an offer when they're packing up for the day" technique was always used by me to make REASONABLE offers based on what the gear is WORTH, not petty "let's see if I can save myself $20" ones.

However, it's kinda sad to see how the hobby has been changed by eBay. These days, it seems that ANY offer made on ANY gear at ANY swapmeet  brings the following response from the seller: "Are you kidding? You know how much I could get for it on eBay??"

Don, KYV wrote:



Overpriced, IMHO.

More often than I like to admit, I have passed up a hard-to-find item at a hamfest because it was a few bucks over my "limit,"  later to regret not biting the bullet and spending the extra $5 or $10 that stood between my maximum and the sellers minimum.  The item is now  long gone, with little likelihood of ever finding another.  Yet the little bit of extra money I could have put out would not have made one iota of difference in my financial situation as it now stands.

One thing that has changed over the years is that I used to shop at hamfests to find "bargains", but now I shop to find stuff that is nominally  unobtainable at any price, anywhere.

Mike,
      Considering the fair prices you and your father asked for stuff, I can't conceive how anyone would P&M about anything they bought from you. I dropped a nice piece of change, and felt that you and your pop treated me like royalty!!!

I rode home in a truck packed with gear - you know what I mean. We drove from your house to mine with the suspension of the truck on it's stops the entire way home (8-9 hours)! On top of that I had people pick up stuff I couldn't fit.

I'm EXTREMELY satisfied with EVERYTHING I got. If it didn't work when I first got it, I got it working in due time, including the HB superhet that was built in 1938 by a friend of your family. You can come over and see literally everything is still in my shack, and will continue to be for many years to come.

Maybe I'm a romantic old fart, but some things you just can't put a price on. EVERY transmitter has the charasteristic Zed-M audio built in, and the level of craftsmanship built into the recondomized Gates (807X 2X46) PW 75M rig is unbelievable. I know it's PW, but just love to use it with a plethora of like receivers. To me, some stuff is priceless. Not only do you get the rig, but the blood, sweat and ingenuity of the man who built it! Another example is the 'W8HVE" rig. I could go on and on.

Th point I'm trying to make is that everything was priced fairly. This doesn't happen all the time, but when gear is offered to the AM community by other members of the AM community, it's usually priced fairly, and both parties make out.

Just my two cents worth.......

 And what I, es another ham friend of mine say to the seller who says
"I can get XXX on Ebay", is "go for it"-- this is NOT "epay", this is
 hosstraders.                  
                                     73, K1MVP :neutral:

Viking Valiants were used as a small brodcast transmitters in small towns of Mexico years ago, at the 50'S a lot of homebrew brodcast equipment was fabricated using the surplus WWII transmitters.  there is not more Mexican short wave stations, the last one "Radio Mexico" was  shut down last years, "not more shortwave listeners, today everybody are using internet" and pull it down the switch!  do you have an Idea where I can find the 1950's vintage White's Radio Log?

And if you really wants to come over, you  have a friend here,count with me  as a tourist  guide and translator.

They're on ebay often. Here's two up there now:
1952-1953
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=132&item=6512682698&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
1947
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=132&item=6512640684&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

I'll see if I can find one of my old ones and send you a xerox copy.  They appeared in quarterly radio magazines (Radio-Electronics or Electronics Illustrated if I remember correctly).  

Maybe I could take you up on your offer after I retire 3-4 years from now, or someone else on this board, sooner.  I am interested in homebrew or commercial AM broadcast transmitters up to 1 kw, built before WW2.

Thanks & 73

Don K4KYV

Snipped from a posting on another BB:

This is what I'm talking about: the eBayization of all noncommercial transactions. It happens even at yard sales now...

ME: $100 for a box of macaroni and an
old toilet plunger?

SELLER: Are you kidding? I could get
$300 if I put them on eBay! I

ME: But this ain't eBay!

SELLER: I know. That's why I knocked $200
off the eBay price! I figure I'd give people
a break.

Is this a good thing? Personally I don't think so. But that's just my opinion. When I ask other people their opinions on it, I find they fall into two categories. (a) Those who have had one or two experiences making a surprisingly nice profit on eBay - generally approve of the system, and (b) those whose only experience is as buyers - generally disapprove of the system.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_and_demand

Hi Dave,
WOW, I guess I will have to remember all this the next time I make
an offer on a BA at the next hamfest I go to.
Does this info also take into account the guy who will pay "anything"
just because he HAS to have it no matter what the item is worth?
I guess when the Uncle Sam, back a few years ago paid $500 to
$1000 for hammers and toilet seats,--the taxpayer was really getting
a "good deal" after all.--Probably would have cost a lot more on EBAY.

                                       73, Rene, K1MVP   :neutral:

I understand the law of supply and demand. What I don't understand is the logic that says "because someone paid $50 for a 3885 xtal on eBay, now all 3885 xtals are worth $50".

Only one way to find out:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewItem&item=5752681247

What is interesting about this post and the replies is that several of the people who appear distressed about the price of boatanchors and have strong criticism of Ebay as an evil thing for ham radio, have engaged in selling boatanchors at excessively high prices themselves! I could easily cite specific examples but that is not necessary!

The art of buying and selling ham radio equipment is far from being simple, so as to give a break to someone when needed, not give away the bank and know when to apply the rules for each. We all can make errors but pissing and moaning about the price of what you want to buy, while selling your BA's for Ebay prices is hypocritical.

There are other factors also. There is a 75A2 presently on Ebay with a buy-it-now price of $950. It is a superb piece   BUT YOU SAY  $950 .. why that's outrageous. Brand new it cost $850 some 55 years ago, without the darn case! Well take a look at it and count the fact that it's not in the dumpster (someone rescued it) someone bought it. Someone had it restored by the master artist of Collins radio .. Howard Mills .. and the piece is now available to you, beautiful and fully restored and operational for your pleasure. Is it worth $950 .. only the seller and the buyer will know for sure!


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5753357544

Golly, it's gorgeous!

--Larry W8ER

You are using Monopoly money.

http://www.note.com/note/pp/tvm_mod.html

I guess my question would be why would someone pay $50.00 for
an FT-243(3885 xtal) on ebay when a whole assortment of Ft-243
xtals for 160, 80, 40 meters are available from AF4K at $9.00 each
plus shipping.
As far as "complaining",-- about this "subject"--the same
could be said about any other subject on the BB board, "politics"
or whatever,--but people do have a right to voice thier opinion,
or so I thought.
IMO, if a guy wants to pay "big bucks", on epay, then let him "go for it".
                                           
                                              73, Rene, K1MVP :neutral:

Rene said:

Rene,

My point clearly was, let's not be hypocritical about it .. that is, "complain" about Ebay and the high price of BA's and then sell yours for Ebay prices. That's a fairly simple concept!

It would have been necessary for you to completely misread my post to think I was "complaining" about voicing an opinion.  :oops:  I think voicing opinions are downright Amurican!

In fact, let me solicit your opinion. What do you think a Valiant should be sold for these days .. understanding that they consistently sell for anywhere between $400 and $700 on Ebay? If you had one ..   :mrgreen: .. would you be willing to sell yours for, maybe $75 because they used to sell at hamfests for that price?


--Larry W8ER

Why is it some here kneejerk to a differing opinion as  if "their right to an opinion" has been violated ???
Me voicing an opposite opinion in now way means I have denied you yours !!!!




I still gots a Viker 2 w/ VFO for sale for $150 !!!

Or shud I up that to $1500 ??? (adjusted for inflation)

Absolutely agree. And if you have a "hot" item like a Ranger, an SX88, or an unbuilt Heathkit to sell, go for it -- and may you get the very best price possible.

However, just because *some* vintage gear sells for 5 figure prices on eBay doesn't mean *all* vintage gear is worth that.

I'm reminded of Michael Douglas speech in the 1980's movie WALL STREET...

Greed is right.

Greed works.

Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit.

Greed, in all of its forms -- greed for life, for money, for love, knowledge -- has marked the upward surge of mankind.

And greed -- you mark my words -- will not only save Teldar Paper, but that other malfunctioning corporation called the USA.


Excellent topic by the way. I brought it up on the air yesterday and a near riot of differing opinions ensued. :cool:

Hi Larry,--Good to hear from you again,

First of all, I DO agree with you, on not being "hypocritical"--i.e., selling
stuff at "top dollar" on EBAY and then that same person complaining
because of the "epay" prices.
 
I have purchased only one item on EBAY, a couple of years ago, es
that was a Drake 2B, es at a fairly "good price",--only abt $150.00
The only "problem" I found was that it did not have the original 10
meter xtal, so I could not use the receiver on a portion of the 10mtr
band, and 15 meters was not working because of it.
Now it was not a "big deal", as I could get the proper xtal, BUT the
seller neglected to mention it.--es thats where I have a problem.
But the same kind of thing happens at hamfests,--so be it.

Now on your "querrie" on the Valiant--My policy is to try to price
it "reasonable" based on condition.
I know this can be very "subjective" but from my experience over
the years in seeing what typical equipment goes for, --both on the
"high" and "low" side,--I try to ask somewhere in the "middle".
Again, other "variables" come into play--i.e, the overall condition
and how "good" is a piece of equipment i.e, --a DX-40 vs a Ranger,
should be obvious as to which is the "better" piece.

Back to the Valiant,--I would think if the xmtr is in "good shape" and
not "butchered", es full of rust es corrosion, a fair price would be
between $350.00 and $400.00--but that is just my "opinion".
As to a $75 valiant, --I am well aware, that is a thing of the past,
unless the rig were a "basketcase"--man its hard to find a decent
DX-40 for that price anymore.
BUT, I would think that $800 bucks for a Valiant is a bit on the high
side, unless I just HAD to have one,(so the price is "subjective")

As far as EBAY, my policy is I would rather bring an item to a
local hamfester even though I might not get "top dollar" es give
a local ham a chance for a better price than ebay, es at the same
time, I don`t have to bother with shipping, especially with the heavier
items.

Anyway, enough of my "ramblings" Larry
                                     
                                     73, Rene, K1MVP :neutral:

I've bought high and sold low...I've bought low and sold high...and luckily never gotten a sharp stick in the eye. Buying and selling has always been a great part of the hobby for me. Hamfesters have always been more fun than ebay........Greg W8RCA

WD8BIL,
 Bud,
 Sounds like a very good price ur asking for a Viking 2 with VFO.
 I sold (at hosstraders) last year a real "clean" Viking 1, with the
 122 VFO, a new spare 4D32 tube and a JT-30 mike for $175.00
 So I think the pricing could be considered very  "reasonable" for ur
 Viking 2.
                               
                                 73, K1MVP :neutral:

 p.s., I wish now I had kept the VFO(the122) for my homebrew 6146
        xmtr.(oh well maybe I can another one) "reasonable" of course,hi.