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Title: Dipole Question
Post by: KE5YTV on November 16, 2014, 12:23:11 AM
I'm putting up a inverted V dipole at my home. The center will be at 40' sloping down to 8' at the ends. My problem is that one leg will pass over a concrete parking area. My question is, how will the concrete affect the antenna performance?  ???

Mike


Title: Re: Dipole Question
Post by: KX5JT on November 16, 2014, 04:09:53 AM
Concrete is simply an insulating (non-conductive) material sitting on top of ground, I think it will be very minimal.  Just make sure it's high enough that vehicles can't take it down.


Title: Re: Dipole Question
Post by: KD6VXI on November 16, 2014, 12:04:58 PM
Concrete is not an insulator.

Try grabbing a 120 vac leg while standing barefoot on that wonderful insulator.

Hopefully you'll still be alive to report back on your findings.

Search UFER  grounding for more info.

Bad piece if information here.

--Shane
KD6VXI


Title: Re: Dipole Question
Post by: KC2ZFA on November 16, 2014, 12:58:07 PM
detailed info here: http://www.iotpe.com/IJTPE/IJTPE-2013/IJTPE-Issue16-Vol5-No3-Sep2013/14-IJTPE-Issue16-Vol5-No3-Sep2013-pp96-101.pdf


Title: Re: Dipole Question
Post by: Steve - K4HX on November 16, 2014, 02:51:05 PM
Unless the area covered by the concrete is exceptionally large, the effect will be just about zero. In other words, don't worry about it.


Title: Re: Dipole Question
Post by: aa5wg on November 16, 2014, 08:17:06 PM
I agree with Steve.  The effective result will be minimal.  There could be steel re rod inside the concrete.
However, from experience this had a zilch effect on my antennas.

73,
Chuck


Title: Re: Dipole Question
Post by: Pete, WA2CWA on November 16, 2014, 10:17:02 PM
I'm putting up a inverted V dipole at my home. The center will be at 40' sloping down to 8' at the ends. My problem is that one leg will pass over a concrete parking area. My question is, how will the concrete affect the antenna performance?  ???

Mike

I might only be a problem if you park a tall truck in the parking area.


Title: Re: Dipole Question
Post by: KX5JT on November 17, 2014, 05:33:21 AM
I stand corrected then... it's not an insulator... hmmm... well... at least the idea of it not being very significant to a dipole above it holds.


Title: Re: Dipole Question
Post by: KE5YTV on November 17, 2014, 11:27:20 AM
Thanks guys! I was afraid that the antenna performance was really going to be compromised. So now, it's full speed ahead.

Mike


Title: Re: Dipole Question
Post by: flintstone mop on November 17, 2014, 03:01:51 PM
What bands are you trying to use?
Inverted Vees are very good antennas for those who cannot have a true flat top dipole.
Are you planning to use a remote tuner? or are you going to find a sweet spot?
Fred


Title: Re: Dipole Question
Post by: KE5YTV on November 17, 2014, 05:28:22 PM
Hi Fred,

80-15 meters with a tuner.

Mike
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